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 862 Posts Member #: 1660 Formally Mini_Uk London |
8th Sep, 2007 at 08:37:51pm
Im just been building a straight cut box.
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1641 Posts Member #: 178 Post Whore stowmaket suffolk |
8th Sep, 2007 at 08:58:25pm
well before you p[anick can you select all gear when turning selector through all bell crank levers if you cant then 3rd 4th gear syncro is wrong way round.
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862 Posts Member #: 1660 Formally Mini_Uk London |
8th Sep, 2007 at 09:47:59pm
Well tried changing gears, and this happend ?
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 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
8th Sep, 2007 at 10:31:55pm
Well, I don't think that anything is wrong.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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862 Posts Member #: 1660 Formally Mini_Uk London |
8th Sep, 2007 at 10:47:15pm
On 8th of Sep, 2007 at 10:31pm Axel said:
Well, I don't think that anything is wrong. Once you have fitted the main bearing retainer with shims, it will probably shift the whole assembly so that the gears line up. However, your first motion shaft bearing may not be fully home. Make sure that all the detent balls in the 3/4 hub are there as they look perilously close to falling out in that last picture. Think ive done something wrong. so should them detent balls be seen like that then ? Shit Happen's |
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 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
8th Sep, 2007 at 11:06:38pm
Nope.
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
8th Sep, 2007 at 11:11:27pm
Might be an issue with 3rd/4th syncro hub (rather than the selector hub), is it installed the correct way round? This might cause the main shaft to sit further away from the first motion shaft, but bind on fourth gear baulk ring?? On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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862 Posts Member #: 1660 Formally Mini_Uk London |
9th Sep, 2007 at 01:14:42am
On 8th of Sep, 2007 at 11:11pm Mini Sprocket said:
Might be an issue with 3rd/4th syncro hub (rather than the selector hub), is it installed the correct way round? This might cause the main shaft to sit further away from the first motion shaft, but bind on fourth gear baulk ring?? Ermm what way round is the is it meant to be ? There is 2 syncro hubs. is one different to the other ? do u mean one of them maybe wrong selector hub. ? Thought the hubs can go either way round ? Cheers... Shit Happen's |
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Forum Mod  5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
9th Sep, 2007 at 06:56:57am
Compare yours to this.......
I seriously doubt it! |
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Site Admin  15302 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
9th Sep, 2007 at 07:14:46am
Yep, you've installed the 3/4 synchro hub the wrong way round on the mainshaft.
On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:
On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else Like fuel 😂😂 |
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862 Posts Member #: 1660 Formally Mini_Uk London |
9th Sep, 2007 at 11:12:52am
On 9th of Sep, 2007 at 07:14am Tom Fenton said:
Yep, you've installed the 3/4 synchro hub the wrong way round on the mainshaft. I made this mistake many years ago the first time I rebuilt the gearbox on my class 1 junior autograss car. You'll never do it again, it needs to come to bits though now. When you say the 3rd/4 synchro hub is wrong way round, The book calles it 3rd synchro hub. Do you mean internernaly it has to be turned the other way? If so, didn't noticed this has to be a certain way or the haynes book of lies didn't tell me. First build, so getting the idea slowly... all fun. :) And could u tell me if you need that seal that goes with the bellcrank lever assembly.. Cheers lads.. Thanks for your support.. Shit Happen's |
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Site Admin 15302 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
9th Sep, 2007 at 11:23:17am
Do as Paul Wiginton says and compare your picture with the one he has linked to.
On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:
On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else Like fuel 😂😂 |
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862 Posts Member #: 1660 Formally Mini_Uk London |
9th Sep, 2007 at 12:04:38pm
The only differents i see, is that my gears are not inline and u can see the teeth on the 3rd hub which the haynes calls it. if you mean that the sleeve is the wrong way, then its an illusion lol.. anyway, i just looked at an old hub and notices the other side is different to the other side.
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5795 Posts Member #: 80 AFRacing LTD Newbury, Berks |
9th Sep, 2007 at 12:10:54pm
I use to keep a built up box on the bench next to me for comparision purposes!
AlexF |
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Site Admin 15302 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
9th Sep, 2007 at 12:15:44pm
On 9th of Sep, 2007 at 12:04pm Mini_Uk said:
if you mean that the sleeve is the wrong way, then its an illusion No it is not an illusion. It is the wrong way round, as three or more people on this thread have now mentioned. Why not take the advice of people who know.
On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:
On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else Like fuel 😂😂 |
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862 Posts Member #: 1660 Formally Mini_Uk London |
9th Sep, 2007 at 01:04:30pm
On 9th of Sep, 2007 at 12:15pm Tom Fenton said:
On 9th of Sep, 2007 at 12:04pm Mini_Uk said:
if you mean that the sleeve is the wrong way, then its an illusion No it is not an illusion. It is the wrong way round, as three or more people on this thread have now mentioned. Why not take the advice of people who know. Right bare with me here please, coz this is my first time building a box... where the arrow is in the picture. the book calls this 3rd top synchro hub, then u have the 3rd top synchro sleeve. you seem to call this different. From the pictures, i cant see what's different. the sleeve which i have double checked on my box seem the right way round. but you say the hub (which the haynes call's 3rd top synchro hub) is the wrong way round. i know now that the hub which has the unit synchro springs in seem different from one side to the other.. (so is it this part you mean that just needs to be turned around the other way ? and not the sleeve.) so im very greatful for your help tom etc, but i cant take the help if im not 100% clear. as im looking in the book to what you say the 3rd/4 hub etc, but book calles it 3rd top synchro hub. so im looking in the book for 3rd/4 hub.. as like i said the book calls some parts different names to what some would call them on here.... So with love  thanks.
and no biting my head off 
Im learning here.. thanks. P.s sorry for the double post.. Shit Happen's |
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862 Posts Member #: 1660 Formally Mini_Uk London |
9th Sep, 2007 at 01:43:51pm
Right then. i know what u guys mean now by 3rd/4 hub.
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862 Posts Member #: 1660 Formally Mini_Uk London |
9th Sep, 2007 at 04:20:40pm
Everything was ok... the 3rd/4 hub wasnt the wrong way at all... spoke with hogster, and he said the gears could be jammed.. and they were..
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 7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
9th Sep, 2007 at 06:04:36pm
The thing that slides on the hub is correct, but the "sliding thing" might be the wrong way around on the piece of the hub that attaches to the mainshaft. On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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