Intercooler fitment and front rad...gulp!
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Ive just offered up my newly aquired IC and it certainly looks like it going to get enough air.



Problem is im running a front rad, and it seems really efficient so don't really want to get rid of it. What are your opinions on removing this section of the transfer case?



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Matt

Edited by matty on 25th Sep, 2007.

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Picture u/s. If its the bit I think you are referring to, chop it off.

Pic working. You can chop the threaded boss off that sticks out on the inner wing side, I wouldn't go quite as far as the line you've drawn though.

I used a metro transfer case on mine which has the extra lump on the front and cut mine in a similar manner to what you're suggesting, not quite as far as the red line though. I'll try and get a pic of it

Ah that would be good to have a pic. :)

Were you thinking more of here (ish) Tom?

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Pic taken from below the car, I cut the case so it was just flush with the flange on the starter

Second picture looks better Matt, I'd keep the ring intact as much as you can, the bit in question has been removed on The DON and is fine, if you are feeling rich you might consider a Brise starter to save some more room?

that fits Nice!

Ive already twisted the starter round so the solenoid is on top. you can see the bolt hole relocated. A brise starter would be nice but im determined to get it to work with this one..lol

Ive taken some pics of the rad and Ic together, quite a snug fit!







Thu lug may need to be cut off the IC to clear the water inlet to the rad, but that shouldn't be to much of a problem!

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Rule of thumb, i.e. if my thumb fits in the gap it's enough clearance! My whole engine bay is like that

Looks good buddy make it happen!

I'm actually thinking i should have fitted one of these in mine rather than the bimmer one....

Matty, I thought that you were selling the turbo lump and building a twink?

So does this mean that you are actually building a turbo twink?

Or are you just messing about with intercoolers for fun?

In the 13's at last!.. Just

Been there, done that, wih the EXACT same bits and gave up, keep the intercooler and use an MPi rad, that way it will fit

Edited by Sprocket on 25th Sep, 2007.

Matty, all looking good mate ..... sure you will get it in there.

What IC is that by the way ????? SAAB???

Every day is a school day ...........

How fast and how expensive ...... the same question...

TD5 methinks.

Matty i ground mine all the way back and even some of the starter motor casing if i remember rightly, no probs :)

Yeah TurboDave's correctomondo, its a TD5 IC.

I'll do some measuring tonight to see how far the transfer housing is from the front panel, but im sure I can get both in sprox!

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i could be wrong, but not sure that's going to give you a great deal more than the cossie cooler. It's tall, long and thin, which will slow the air down. The cossie one is smaller but deeper so keeps air speed up.

If i'm talking bollocks, someone please correct me.

Didn't want you to do a ton of work and get no return for it.

The main problem is the throttle bodies will probably be to far forward to fit the 2wd cooler in front, thats why im trying a different one.

I offered both up again tonight...hmm its gonna be a mission to get both to fit neatly!

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i think it will work very well, as there will be more heat lost from the front to the back of the cores . and if its of a td5 then its more than up to the job, thinking that the td5 is well over a 2ltr engine.

always looking for them bigger bunches of bannanas

i've got a rad an intercooler the same, never did get them fitted but kept them as a project later on. if you look at jims car, they move the front end a bit further forward. you wouldnt notice and gives vitle space.

IIRC its the A panels that come forward a bit.

Sprocket, did you use a subframe with the original or slightly forward engine position of the later cars?

Matty, never give up mate ....... not until the fat lady sings anyway....

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How fast and how expensive ...... the same question...

MPi rad fits because ou can get it to sit along side the starter motor, the TD5 intercooler will fit infront of the engine inbetween the front panel, this will work.

I have another plan, but thats secret for the moment.

Roger, i was using the auto subframe, spaced to lower the engine about 6 to 8 mm. The original location for the engine mounts was used as opposed to the later 92 onwards cars. The only reason Rover moved the engine forward was to prevent fouling of the HIF SU carb on the bulkhead. The SPi unit fits without fouling when the engine is relocated. I am currently using the late subframe with re located engine mounts, this also moved the gear lever towards me in the car by 10 to 12mm and with the quickshift, i dont have to reach for it so much now It also reduces the drive angle of the hardy spicers, which is a good thing.

You only gain 10 to 12mm in moving the engine on later cars, but at least it gives you that bit more.

There is something else I took into consideration when I fitted the new front end. As I had cut out the inner wings for a little more space , I fitted brace bars. I used the standard tear drop front panel mounts with solid steel fixing bushes on top of the brace bar mounting on the front of the subframe, this moved the front panel forward at the bottom by about 6mm, no one would notice as the front was assembled and welded like that

The real problem you will come across Matty, is the fitment of a fan, Even with the oil filter relocated, and even with the smaller alternator, its going to be a bit tight getting it all in in the places you want it.