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As title really, how have you mounted them (using standard mini column) Pics and ideas please.
Much appreciated.
Shane.


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Obviously not exactly like that but you could use the rose joint or weld it to cage if you have a dash bar.


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Cheers Rick, I was thinking more along the lines of a bracket fixed to the dash bar similar to what is usually mounted to the lower dash rail (which I dont actually have)
Cheers
Shane


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i've got one here. SD do them. its a formed mount with 2 captive nuts in to just bolt it up as per normal.

i would let this one go for a couple of beer tokens posted but i cant do it till i get back in about 2 weeks.

its brand new.


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Done with bracket from Demon Tweks. Standard steering column





Oh, and the way Cossierick has done it is in my eyes silly. What happens if you're unlucky with belts, seats or similar? I would not want the steering column thingy to be TOO solid. It should sort of break away. That thing whis is pointed 90degrees against head/chest is not that good...

Edited by Vegard on 19th Nov, 2007.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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this is how mine is done.

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Any pics of that Iain and does it allow you to lower the column?


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I understand Vegard its right in the middle of my chest aswell am considering changing something so it will collaps in an impact ?


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I like the thought behind Rick's and Jims but I have mounted mine like our Norwegian friend and much as it pains me he has a point!

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



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Did you know that most new cars that have a high score on the EURO NCAP rating 4-5 stars are all left hand drive? If you were to crash the same high achievers in a right hand drive test the steering column usually pierces your sternum as the engine will punch it thru where as in left hand drive the gearbox on a fwd car does not do the same thing?

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



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steering wheels crashing into your sternum hurt... had the whole package combined with 2 collapsed lungs years ago


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On 20th of Nov, 2007 at 08:35am Scruffy said:
Did you know that most new cars that have a high score on the EURO NCAP rating 4-5 stars are all left hand drive? If you were to crash the same high achievers in a right hand drive test the steering column usually pierces your sternum as the engine will punch it thru where as in left hand drive the gearbox on a fwd car does not do the same thing?


Thanks for that! I'm sure we all wanted to know.

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On 20th of Nov, 2007 at 08:35am Scruffy said:
Did you know that most new cars that have a high score on the EURO NCAP rating 4-5 stars are all left hand drive? If you were to crash the same high achievers in a right hand drive test the steering column usually pierces your sternum as the engine will punch it thru where as in left hand drive the gearbox on a fwd car does not do the same thing?


This sounds too bad to be true to me. If all the cars that are tested are left hand drive how do we know that this happens in a right hand drive? Can you point me in the direction of the data you are quoting for the 'Usually pierces your sternum'. Sounds like internet gossip.

If there is some truth in this we had better get onto Jeremy Vine to sort it out.

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On 20th of Nov, 2007 at 02:58pm Tazzy said:
steering wheels crashing into your sternum hurt... had the whole package combined with 2 collapsed lungs years ago


What car?

On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding


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I am not going to do specifics here but lets just say some of our cars achieve good ratings in lhd and then rhd is tested and not so good. We get slating only to find that actually we are far from alone in this!

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



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Think about the underbonnet config of any fwd car and decide where the engine is going to go in the event in a collision. Most are baised to rh side of car with tranny on lhs - does not take a mastermind to work out what is going to happen if engine goes into bulkhead

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



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On 20th of Nov, 2007 at 07:53pm Scruffy said:
Think about the underbonnet config of any fwd car and decide where the engine is going to go in the event in a collision. Most are baised to rh side of car with tranny on lhs - does not take a mastermind to work out what is going to happen if engine goes into bulkhead


I know nothing of the testing completed, but I do know that engineers work out how an engine will move in a crash and manufacturers do plenty of testing. If you think you know where an engine is going just looking at it then you truly are a mastermind. That said I am happy to accept that left hand drive cars perform differently from right hand drive cars. What I object to is the work 'Usually'. Concidering that more bmw 3 series were sold last year than mondeos it is obviously not usually at all, although you did quantify in the end with FWD.

As usualy I just like a bit of balance, but it just sounds like daily mail scaremongering to me.

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Isn't it true what is in the Daily Mail then???? ::)

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



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Thanks lads ,just to upset me more about my steering colom.

It needs sorting more than i thaught now its talked about.

Rick


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On 20th of Nov, 2007 at 07:16pm minimole23 said:



On 20th of Nov, 2007 at 02:58pm Tazzy said:
steering wheels crashing into your sternum hurt... had the whole package combined with 2 collapsed lungs years ago


What car?

I dunno (don't know much of the accident), but me on a bicycle acting like lance armstrong going head on :$


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Back on tpoic! lol! Im thinking of fabricating up a bracket similar ti what V posted, Going to have to get some seats on order now and fit the pedal box to get an idea of position, joy! now, am I better to bolt this to the dash bar (as this is how it mounts to the dash rail usually) or weld it to the dash bar?
Cheers
Shane


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I actually welded the bracket for the column to mount on in Vegards car for him. We welded it to the bar, but did just stitch it and did not seam weld it to the bar.


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Someone clarify this, I remember the bolts holding the column on being of the sheer-in-an-accident type, no? My other car has such that if the driver hits the wheel in an accident the column collapses and moves into the floor, so it's bolted to the dash by a slotted bracket that lets this movement happen. This is probly useless dribble but it made sense and was informative when it was in my head!

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The bolt holding the column is a shear when tigthened bolt, that's all.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.


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