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112 Posts Member #: 1613 Advanced Member N. Ireland |
25th Jan, 2008 at 03:07:23pm
Right im at a crossroads for brakes, do I just plunge for the fiesta option as its the cheepest or are the 4 pots from the likes of minisport, minispares etc a better option! Im building a turbo engine for the road and i want to have decent enough brakes! Does anyone have any experience of these 4 pots? |
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
25th Jan, 2008 at 03:10:07pm
I think both will be good,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
25th Jan, 2008 at 03:22:35pm
When i decided to use the Fiesta brakes a few months ago, I found that I could not get hold of the sliders that hold the calipers.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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![]() 1497 Posts Member #: 100 Parisien Turbo Expert Paris\' suburb |
25th Jan, 2008 at 03:24:06pm
I've a set of minisport ones, they are five years old and I would do it again. |
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112 Posts Member #: 1613 Advanced Member N. Ireland |
25th Jan, 2008 at 04:00:39pm
I had that thought about the fiesta brakes, that in a few years if i need anything there may be no parts about!
Edited by bertieboo on 25th Jan, 2008. |
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![]() 7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
25th Jan, 2008 at 04:19:09pm
Two small pistons vs one big? same debate? The people debating that obviously preferres 2v engines I guess... On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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112 Posts Member #: 1613 Advanced Member N. Ireland |
25th Jan, 2008 at 04:22:20pm
Well, from what iv heard and what i have seen, that on 4 pots there are 2 small pistons compared to the 1 big piston on each side, conlcuding that there wasnt a big difference at the end of the day!
Edited by bertieboo on 25th Jan, 2008. |
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![]() 2500 Posts Member #: 648 Post Whore Northern Ireland (ex AUS) |
25th Jan, 2008 at 05:24:14pm
Assuming you got for alloy ones you get better heat disapation and lower unsprung weight. The 4 pot pad is bigger than the S pad so more swept area. Edited by Jay#2 on 25th Jan, 2008. On 7th Nov, 2008 Nic said:
naeJ m !!!!!!sdrawkcab si gnihtyreve ?droabyekym ot deneppah sah tahw ayhwdd |
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
25th Jan, 2008 at 05:40:44pm
I can't use either the Fiesta conversion or the MiniSpares 4 pots because I have 10" Mambas and they are one of a few 10" alloys that will only fit over the "S" setup (confirmed by others for the Fiesta conversion and stated on the leaflet inside the MiniSpares box as these "may" not fit under Mambas so I wasn't going to take the risk). So beware, not all 10" wheels are equal !!!
On 25th Jan, 2008 Vegard said:
Two small pistons vs one big? same debate? The people debating that obviously preferres 2v engines I guess... Not quite the same, engine valves work on flow area which is essentially valve circumference X lift, and circumference is Diameter X Pi. So two valves half the size of one are essentially equal and as soon as you can squeeze the two in, each at more than half the size of one, things get better. With brake calliper pistons it's the surface area that matters and area is Diameter Squared X Pi / 4. So two brake pistons half the size of one have half the overall area when added together. The surface area of a 1" piston, for example, is 1/4 the surface area of a 2" piston. In fact the two little ones need to be 0.707 times the diameter of a single one (rather than 0.5) to have the same overall area. .....Expecting now to be shot down in flames... :):):) Rod. Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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![]() 3692 Posts Member #: 1833 Formally mini_majic Auckland, New Zealand |
25th Jan, 2008 at 06:17:57pm
even pressure on the larger pad also helps alot on four pots. |
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715 Posts Member #: 1381 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
25th Jan, 2008 at 06:35:26pm
I can't help but wonder how many people, who fit ali 4/6 pot brakes at great expense, have the opportunity/ ability to drive their car fast enough to gain any benefit from them.
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
25th Jan, 2008 at 07:15:03pm
well,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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![]() 2500 Posts Member #: 648 Post Whore Northern Ireland (ex AUS) |
25th Jan, 2008 at 08:09:59pm
On 25th Jan, 2008 mini13 said:
currently i have S brakes with 1144 pads and no servo and can fade these. Ditto! I had a run in with a Hyundi of all things, he took offence that a brown mini could move fairly quick. A session of him braking hard to try and get me to run into the back of him soon have my slotted S disc/1144 combo stinky and well cooked. On 7th Nov, 2008 Nic said:
naeJ m !!!!!!sdrawkcab si gnihtyreve ?droabyekym ot deneppah sah tahw ayhwdd |
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