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Looks very nice!

We want specs (cc, psi, etc.)

BTW: Why are most people using MAP sensor for the fueling.
Isn't MAF more easier?


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MAP is much better on turbocharged engines. MAF sensors are tempramental, need cleaning often, and max out fairly quickly. A Map sensor will keep working long after a MAF has died. Its easy to pick a Map sensor as well - choose how much boost you want to run maximum, add 1 bar to that number (for atmospheric pressure) and then go find your Map sensor. I wouldn't imagine there's many people running over 1 bar (although I could be wrong) so they would use a 2 bar map sensor. Anyone running over 1 bar would use a 2.5 bar or 3 bar map sensor.

On 15th Jul, 2009 fastcarl said:
a breif struggle ensued but Will emerged the victor with a pair of undies in his possesion


On 21st Sep, 2009 apbellamy said:
No, but you did chuck your guts up over my front gate the Saturday before! You even managed to get a bit in your arm pit...


matty

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On 30th Jan, 2008 johnK said:
Matt - I'm using a tmap sensor (air temp and pressure in one sensor) and its in the bottom of the plenum



Flash git...*tongue*

I was thinking of doing the same, cheers.

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1/4mile in 13.2sec @ 111 terminal on 15psi


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Matt - lol!!

spec is

SC conversion kit
1293cc
8.4:1 cr
forged pistons
billet crank/rods
steel 4 bolt main
steel end mains
cryo treated
full turbo spec ported head
sc turbo cams
SC hybrid gt rs roller bearing series turbo - more than 20psi
sc manifold/downpipe
slightly larger than 60mm throttle body
custom plenum
PWR charge cooler

cryo treated gear cases
dog box - cryo treated inc shafts etc
lsd
SC traction control
SC launch control
SC "cyclone" ecu

nanas and curly wurrlies estimate a moderate amount more than 100.

JK

If Carling made Mini engines
it would probably be like this one!


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On 30th Jan, 2008 johnK said:

nanas and curly wurrlies estimate a moderate amount more than 100.

JK



*laughing**laughing**laughing**laughing**laughing**laughing**laughing*

Under estimate of the century *tongue*

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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Just slightly!

On 15th Jul, 2009 fastcarl said:
a breif struggle ensued but Will emerged the victor with a pair of undies in his possesion


On 21st Sep, 2009 apbellamy said:
No, but you did chuck your guts up over my front gate the Saturday before! You even managed to get a bit in your arm pit...


robert

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think ill start a thread in tech about power projection for this !

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM


Nic

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good idea, i need to know how much nitrous to hide in my car


Si P

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One word to describe that little lot. “QUALITY.”

With regards to launch control how are you going about it?

It’s just that I’ve seen a well known mini with a system fitted which works amazing ling well. Producing constant 60fts. It’s the future I think.

Great work.

Si P

I drill holes in everything..!


fastcarl

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On 30th Jan, 2008 Si P said:
One word to describe that little lot. “QUALITY.”

With regards to launch control how are you going about it?

It’s just that I’ve seen a well known mini with a system fitted which works amazing ling well. Producing constant 60fts. It’s the future I think.

Great work.

Si P



shush!!!!, no you didn't you were seing things, it was all a mirage,lol

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robert

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is gavin the only one to get below 2 secs 60 ft ? i seem to remember he did 1.98 at some point , might just be a fantasy of my own creation though !

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM


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MUM's the Word......!

And I retract my last comment!

Si


On 30th Jan, 2008 fastcarl said:



On 30th Jan, 2008 Si P said:
One word to describe that little lot. “QUALITY.”

With regards to launch control how are you going about it?

It’s just that I’ve seen a well known mini with a system fitted which works amazing ling well. Producing constant 60fts. It’s the future I think.

Great work.

Si P



shush!!!!, no you didn't you were seing things, it was all a mirage,lol

I drill holes in everything..!


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Si - the launch control is closely linked to the traction control, it is not a simple rev limiter for the line. Its all based on relative wheel speed front to rear and allowable difference in speed between the wheels, combined with "torque" reducing spark scatter to keep the speed differential the same until full grip is attained and the motor cannot spin the wheels no matter the revs - I think this motor will trouble the tc in all the gears going by my gear cascade estimations! or in simple terms its estimated to have the same accelerative force at 100mph in 4th gear as my na 1380 twink had at 60mph in second gear - which believe me wasn't slow!


JK

If Carling made Mini engines
it would probably be like this one!


Nic

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Herefordshire

How much would i need to save for such technology?


johnK

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Nic - its not as bad as you would think - but you would have to swop to our ecu for engine control - the rest is straightforward. drop me a pm if you are interested

cheers

John

If Carling made Mini engines
it would probably be like this one!


matty

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John, what ratio final drive are you using?

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johnK

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some more pics:

FD - higher than 3.9 lower than 3.1!!







If Carling made Mini engines
it would probably be like this one!


Si P

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Johnk - It will be very interested in seeing your system working.

And with TC active will this also help out with the clutch loading to..? e.g clutch slip?

Si

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Paul R

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that is automotive sex at its best...

Drives
-Ford S-max Mk2 Ecoboost
-Rover 100 VVC #2 - track project

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johnK

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Si P - yes the load on the clutch will be limited by capping the torque in lower gears via closely controlled boost pressure.

If Carling made Mini engines
it would probably be like this one!


Si P

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Thought as much. Very Clever..!

Will the management ever release the full torque I wonder? *wink*

Si

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johnK

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I expect by the top end of 3rd and 4th it should be able to go for it!

JK

If Carling made Mini engines
it would probably be like this one!


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I just had a nasty feeling of deja-vu here... all this 'talk' and I just kept thinking hang-on, this sounds like Peter the magazine man...

And then i realised that there are pictures to prove it... And appearances at shows. And.....

Good stuff John...

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matty

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Ah wondered when those pics would return of the manifold! *wink*

That would of saved me soo much hassle. lol

Traction control...now play fair...hmmm tempted to go for slicks with some very half arsed treads cut into them and some tyre paint that says A008's on the side, they'll be none the wiser. *laughing*

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Now that's interesting. Looks like a T2/T25 housing, but the 9 blade impeller would suggest that it's much newer technology.



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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.

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