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71 Posts Member #: 316 Advanced Member Staffs |
2nd Feb, 2008 at 10:37:10am
My mini turbo has developed a problem. When trying to start the engine, its as if the battery is flat. It is a new battery, and the problem is intermitant.
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![]() 2924 Posts Member #: 95 Post Whore liverpool-on-sea |
2nd Feb, 2008 at 10:44:46am
ignition timing out?
no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.
On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl. |
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![]() 2406 Posts Member #: 341 aka T2clubby South Staffs |
2nd Feb, 2008 at 10:46:13am
Did you swap the starter for a new one?
Edited by Kean on 2nd Feb, 2008. |
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Site Admin ![]() 8506 Posts Member #: 16 Sold the turbo and seeing what the C20XE can do! Near Lincoln |
2nd Feb, 2008 at 12:31:45pm
ignition leads in the wrong order?
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![]() 862 Posts Member #: 1660 Formally Mini_Uk London |
2nd Feb, 2008 at 12:37:42pm
On 2nd Feb, 2008 iain said:
ignition leads in the wrong order? 1342 anti-clockwise Yep 1342. but surley it would still turn over if they were wrong.. it's just clicking :( Shit Happen's |
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![]() 862 Posts Member #: 1660 Formally Mini_Uk London |
2nd Feb, 2008 at 12:40:16pm
opps sorry i answerd in the wrong post lol .. durrrr Shit Happen's |
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Site Admin ![]() 8506 Posts Member #: 16 Sold the turbo and seeing what the C20XE can do! Near Lincoln |
2nd Feb, 2008 at 02:45:42pm
i cant see any other reason than timing if the engine turns over well with the plugs in but plug leads off, and doesnt turn over with plug leads on.
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![]() 3329 Posts Member #: 184 Senior Member Melton Mowbray, Pie Country |
2nd Feb, 2008 at 02:49:16pm
Have you tried putting a jump lead directly from the battery to the starter motor. Thus eliminating wiring problems. http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
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![]() 368 Posts Member #: 806 Senior Member Cirencester, Gloucestershire |
2nd Feb, 2008 at 04:53:36pm
ignition module if it's that type of dizzy
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Site Admin ![]() 8506 Posts Member #: 16 Sold the turbo and seeing what the C20XE can do! Near Lincoln |
2nd Feb, 2008 at 05:00:03pm
why would it turn over with plugs in, leads off, but not, plugs in leads on, other than timing?
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![]() 9327 Posts Member #: 59 First mini turbo to get in the 12's & site perv Herefordshire |
2nd Feb, 2008 at 06:54:01pm
Check your earths and clean them |
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71 Posts Member #: 316 Advanced Member Staffs |
2nd Feb, 2008 at 07:41:24pm
hi guys thanks for the comments the timing is set at 7 deegrees 1500 rpm as haynes manual says the leads are on the right way as it does fire as i stated it is a intermitent problem i have put another starter on no difference changed coil no difference also i have noticed the yellow/white wire that goes from the starter motor to the coil if you take it off it turns over fine but wont fire as soon as connected problems back i have got another dizzy to try not sure if it will do anything you can turn engine over by hand as i thought something was binding i know its not mechnical its bloody electrics thanks dave |
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1060 Posts Member #: 588 Post Whore Delaware, USA |
2nd Feb, 2008 at 07:49:20pm
On 2nd Feb, 2008 speedyminidave said:
i have noticed the yellow/white wire that goes from the starter motor to the coil if you take it off it turns over fine but wont fire as soon as connected I'm with Iain.. The timing is advanced so far that it fires too early and stops the engine.. are you sure the timings OK?? advance weights siezing? Terry EDIT read that again.. are you saying its just clicking (not turning over) or barely turning over and not firing or turning over normal speed and not firing? Edited by Turbo Tel on 2nd Feb, 2008. website:- http://www.terryhunt.co.uk
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71 Posts Member #: 316 Advanced Member Staffs |
2nd Feb, 2008 at 10:59:23pm
right here we go turn key to start it starts runs for about 5 minutes switch off then try to restart and it barely turns over not firing as it is not turning over like it should do it is not the battery as it is a new one i thought 7 degrees was the right setting for the timing thanks for the replys dave |
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1060 Posts Member #: 588 Post Whore Delaware, USA |
3rd Feb, 2008 at 03:13:03am
On 2nd Feb, 2008 speedyminidave said:
turn key to start it starts runs for about 5 minutes switch off then try to restart and it barely turns over not firing as it is not turning over like it should do When you have the problem if it turns over OK when dizzy or coil is disconnected then its too far advanced. Seems unlikely, but Only thing I can think of is that the mechanical advance mechanism or the vacuum advance is sticking at the max advance setting.. are you having trouble with the idle? does the idle ever stay high after you have revved the engine at all? or does it always idle OK? Next time you have the problem try disconnecting the vacuum pipe, take the dizzy cover off and make sure the vacuum advance is not stuck and finally try turning the dizzy anticlockwise a bit and see if it helps at all. good luck! Edited by Turbo Tel on 3rd Feb, 2008. website:- http://www.terryhunt.co.uk
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71 Posts Member #: 316 Advanced Member Staffs |
3rd Feb, 2008 at 06:34:03pm
Problem solved... after a long day in the cold. It was the ignition module. A bit suprised as it is a new one. Luckily i had spare one.
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