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Paul S

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I was planning on using the three existing head studs as recommended by the SC manual.

However, on the small bore the slight missmatch of the bore centrelines causes a significant overlap.



The head could do with moving over by about 2.5mm.

I was planning to sort this with a 1.0mm offset of the bore in the north/south direction.

However, I recently saw a photo of a dry decked block where the three studs had been moved by plugging and re-dirilling.

Is anyone else planning or have done it this way?

If I do it this way then I can offset the bores further in the east/west direction which would help unshroud the exhaust valves on cyls. 2 & 4.

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i was at the machine shop the other day and we had a similar discussion. not sure what would happen with regard to the cam pulleys lining up etc.

what we said for now was we would put a chanfer on the top of the bore to stop hot spots and then put "pockets" in. tbh though they will be more like a radiused lip.


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i wouldnt have thought that this would cause a problem with the cam pulleys because as long as they stay inline on the y axis then you should be able to move them on the x-axis enough to get the clearance you need.
or am i totaly wrong?

it sounds like a very good idea to me, a good way of getting a better match to the bore spacing.


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My main concern was the plugging and then re-tapping of the stud holes.

As far as the cam pulleys is concerned, moving the head a couple of millimeters towards the front of the engine should not pose a problem.

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ahh i see move it forwards!!! i thought you meant moving it more towards the water pump end. i dont see why it would be a problem to redrill them as that is what you have to do on a couple of the others anyway.


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How about plugging the head holes, and re-locating those?
Or at least elongate the middle three?

This made sense when i looked at the 8v - not so much on the 16v though

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One thing about doing it that way Dave, is the locating of the head. Id be inclined dowel the head in that case

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Sprox,

It turns out that the photo I could not find was of your block. Hidden deep in your EFI forum.

Did you do it that way for the same reason?

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I did indeed, i wanted to get the head chambers dead centered over the cylinders. Optimising what i got *wink* rather than clearance isues.

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Did you use 3/8 BSPT plugs? and then re-drill?

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looks like i will be calling the machine shop this morning!!! hopefully they havent done much more to it!!


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On 10th Mar, 2008 Paul S said:
Did you use 3/8 BSPT plugs? and then re-drill?


I dont know, i left it to my machinist, he clocked up on cylinder three then marked out all the studs from a drawing i drew up on CAD. he offset milled those front three big enough for a clean fit of a plug and so that the stud would be in the middle of the plug. It was a threaded plug, but i think he made them, up probibly metric.

This is the picture you were looking for



Edited by Sprocket on 10th Mar, 2008.

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Paul S

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Thanks Sprox. Great Stuff.

Makes more sense than shifting the bores towards the studs.

Edited by Paul S on 10th Mar, 2008.

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I used 3/8 bspt plugs for my plugs, cast iron bar just to be safe on the thermal expansions. Mine overlap on the back three between plug and block, i can't see a problem with it personally and our engine builder for work said it should be okay.

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