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4309 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
23rd Mar, 2008 at 05:08:51pm
I have just set about stripping the head off my donar engine and found the piston crowns to be stamped with a B. The pistons I was planning on putting in are stamped A.
Edited by minimole23 on 25th Mar, 2008. On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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23rd Mar, 2008 at 07:08:32pm
I don't know what the A & B means...
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34 Posts Member #: 2156 Member wigan jnt 23 m6 |
23rd Mar, 2008 at 07:43:21pm
if im right in thinking (i may be wrong) the a b thing is the grade of piston not the size |
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![]() 1497 Posts Member #: 100 Parisien Turbo Expert Paris\' suburb |
23rd Mar, 2008 at 07:52:36pm
a and B are different pistons in the sens that they are not exactly the same bore so A bore pistons are going into A bored bore and B bore pistons are going into B bored blocks,
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
23rd Mar, 2008 at 09:24:27pm
On 23rd Mar, 2008 fab said:
a and B are different pistons in the sens that they are not exactly the same bore so A bore pistons are going into A bored bore and B bore pistons are going into B bored blocks, you can have an A block honed to B specs, then reverse isn't possible Correctimundo. Similar to how Rover had a selection of big end and main bearings of the 'standard' size with different tollerencies. Just easier to build stuff faster that way as tollerencies can wander on the production line. LOL, ive seen stuff on a transmission production line of a very large, very well known car manufacturer, that would make your jaw drop. Anyone heard of a Friday afternoon car
While we are on the subject of markings, any one know what the letters on the bottom flange of the block relate to? Edited by Sprocket on 23rd Mar, 2008. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
23rd Mar, 2008 at 09:29:45pm
Oh, and there is nothing wrong with a little more piston clearance on a high performance engine On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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4309 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
23rd Mar, 2008 at 10:08:07pm
Thanks, I will just get on a tear it apart. On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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![]() 7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
24th Mar, 2008 at 12:02:35pm
The mains are the same history. Just had an A+ ABA block line honed, where the centre main bearings had wiggled like crazy. B= Bad. On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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4309 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
24th Mar, 2008 at 12:03:02pm
ok, to give me an idea if they are likely to be fine, so I dont rip a good engine apart for no reason i tried the pistons in the bore from the top down.
On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
24th Mar, 2008 at 01:01:15pm
On 24th Mar, 2008 Vegard said:
The mains are the same history. Just had an A+ ABA block line honed, where the centre main bearings had wiggled like crazy. B= Bad. Close,
I now realise what they mean, and you are not far off
The G is for Green, and the R is for Red. The colour codes of the different tollerence bearings. Just read the workshop manual
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
24th Mar, 2008 at 01:07:28pm
Piston Clearance is measured at the bottm of the skirt and across the pins ( not along)
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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![]() 7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
24th Mar, 2008 at 05:50:12pm
I just hat a look at mine. They're AYA..Y=Junk :) On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
24th Mar, 2008 at 06:07:08pm
Y = yellow and is used if the Green is too tight. Red is used if its too loose.
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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4309 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
25th Mar, 2008 at 05:26:44pm
Well, I took the block to my machine man today, and mesured the pistons. They will indeed fit the block after a hone which is good.
On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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![]() 2975 Posts Member #: 10749 Post Whore lowestoft suffolk |
4th May, 2015 at 06:21:01pm
Thought id add here rather than start new thread.. i have 2 engines.. one with an A stamped on the face of the block.. and one with a B stamped on the face of the block.. this one also has B stamped on the pistons.. from what i gather the tolerance thing is b block means b pistons.. etc but what is the difference between a and b? On 24th Oct, 2015 jonny f said:
Nothing gets past Dave lol NOTHING GETS PAST ME!!
1/4 mile 14.7 @ 96mph 12psi boost Showdown class A 2nd place 18.6 @ 69mph |
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4309 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
4th May, 2015 at 07:06:41pm
The difference is minimal I would say, but relevant for a production engine.
On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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