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 730 Posts Member #: 1791 Post Whore Cranleigh, surrey |
8th Jul, 2008 at 12:27:36pm
So after the rolling road i went out last night, nice and cool evening so lots of horses, put it on higher boost, and nearly ended up in a bush! the torque steer was quite frightening (but also loads of fun)
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 6549 Posts Member #: 1149 #1 Basshunter Fan Force Racing ICT Dept Manager Miglia Turbo Am frum Yokshyer tha noes! |
8th Jul, 2008 at 12:30:50pm
What front suspension do you have? Go solid everything if you want to eliminate 1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.
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 9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
8th Jul, 2008 at 12:31:44pm
With the off-set you have on the wheels and the power yes.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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 1497 Posts Member #: 100 Parisien Turbo Expert Paris\' suburb |
8th Jul, 2008 at 12:41:05pm
front camberµ/castor will help to adress your trouble, but defo ofsetted wheels and std diff will have to be adressed if you want to stay on the same road you want to |
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730 Posts Member #: 1791 Post Whore Cranleigh, surrey |
8th Jul, 2008 at 12:48:31pm
everything is solid, hi lo's gas shocks, quaife lsd, solid mount front subfram, rose jointed bottom arms, heavy duty tie bars, 6 1/2 inch mb's with 3inch inners 3.5 outers, soft rubber a038r, it was 180 bhp on a warm day......i'm thinking its normal.....might adjust my castor a bit, shorten the tie bars? "Cars are a lifetime of pain" |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
8th Jul, 2008 at 12:55:18pm
Not so much off-set then, a lot less than I run. But I run on tracks only and have no problems. But if I take it round the block it's hard work as the camber of the road really upsets it. Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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 9812 Posts Member #: 332 Resident Cylinder Head Modifier Mitsi Evo 7, 911, Cossie. & all the chavs ...... won no problem |
8th Jul, 2008 at 06:02:07pm
i have found 5.5 deg caster helps from the standard 3 deg
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 6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
8th Jul, 2008 at 07:31:50pm
what do you have the toe set at.
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9812 Posts Member #: 332 Resident Cylinder Head Modifier Mitsi Evo 7, 911, Cossie. & all the chavs ...... won no problem |
8th Jul, 2008 at 10:30:48pm
carl whats the offset on 13s super lights
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730 Posts Member #: 1791 Post Whore Cranleigh, surrey |
9th Jul, 2008 at 09:34:12am
increased the castor and seems a bit better, i'll have to see on saturday!!! hopefully the track will be a bit grippier (if thats a word) than the standard b-roads! "Cars are a lifetime of pain" |
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 6752 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
9th Jul, 2008 at 10:01:39am
i thougt that worked out at 6mm neg offset ? Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
9th Jul, 2008 at 02:41:36pm
i meant 26mm neg.
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6752 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
9th Jul, 2008 at 07:28:47pm
ah i see carl , maybe i have evolved my own wierd way to work it out ,,
Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
9th Jul, 2008 at 09:06:27pm
On 9th Jul, 2008 robert said:
ah i see carl , maybe i have evolved my own wierd way to work it out ,, i go , total width 6.5 ,,,so mid point 3.25 so if its 3.5 outside than thats 3.25 minus 3.5 equals -.25 (or-6mm roughly ) . which qwould prob be correct if the ppint where the rims meet was on the same plain as the wheel mount face. but its not as its offset by 14mm,lol |
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 5329 Posts Member #: 140 Proven 200+bhp & Avon Park 05,06,07 Class D 3rd place |
9th Jul, 2008 at 09:18:56pm
yes sounds normal to me, sadly, but i'm sure you can sort the sus out a like to help. I have overtakn cars before with out steering. so i no what you mean. Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
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6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
9th Jul, 2008 at 09:24:49pm
On 9th Jul, 2008 Miniwilliams said:
yes sounds normal to me, sadly, but i'm sure you can sort the sus out a like to help. I have overtakn cars before with out steering. so i no what you mean. i have never suffered torque steer in my car , neither has the Don, get rid of any rubber in the suspension and set it up. WORD!!. |
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 9326 Posts Member #: 59 First mini turbo to get in the 12's & site perv Herefordshire |
10th Jul, 2008 at 12:14:20am
On 9th Jul, 2008 fastcarl said:
WORD!! Yo! what up blud |
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 3184 Posts Member #: 628 Post Whore a LIL fishing village on the coast - Newcastle Upon Tyne |
10th Jul, 2008 at 09:34:55am
so i take it the way forward (as apposed to sideways) is to go solid mounted engine and solid mounted subby, what about the donuts do we change them for the new spring type affair ? i have gas shox so will be winding them right up, my other thoughts were something along the lines of a clamp weight on the shorter drive shaft this has merely been a fleeting thought is it the weight diference in the shafts that causes one wheel to spin up faster than tuther, or is it length (try to resist the puns lads) what iam getting at is two shafts of equal weight but diff length would still give torque steer ?
Edited by Richie on 10th Jul, 2008.
On 17th Aug, 2009 Jay#2 said:
I doubt I'll be dipping into the 13's like you did though! |
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Site Admin  8506 Posts Member #: 16 Sold the turbo and seeing what the C20XE can do! Near Lincoln |
10th Jul, 2008 at 09:58:06am
i have no issue with torque steer either but that is on the track, not really the road. at some point i will see what its like on the road! |
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6752 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
10th Jul, 2008 at 10:59:30am
i have found theres 2 different things ,one , is torque steer of the line or up to say 50 mph ,where the thing darts from side to side like a landed fish (carp)
Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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730 Posts Member #: 1791 Post Whore Cranleigh, surrey |
10th Jul, 2008 at 02:42:54pm
on 10 psi on the actuator its fine, its only when i bump it up to 18 and give it the heavy right foot, then the "carp darting around" comes into play!!! I think like all you guys have said its a cross between the front end not quite being set up properly and the power? Would you suggest solid mounting the engine even though its used on the road and has 4 rose jointed engine steadys? "Cars are a lifetime of pain" |
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Forum Mod  5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
10th Jul, 2008 at 03:21:16pm
On 10th Jul, 2008 robert said:
i have found theres 2 different things ,one , is torque steer of the line or up to say 50 mph ,where the thing darts from side to side like a landed fish (carp) and the other thing is , where your doing 90 odd ,and want to overtake something ,and give it .000003 degree sterering input ,and it dashes for the other kerb ,then you corect .0000001 degree steeering and nearly bounce off the side of the car your overtaking !! That sounds like my car with Salisbury LSD, 10 wheels and 155 Baldwins Paul I seriously doubt it! |
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6549 Posts Member #: 1149 #1 Basshunter Fan Force Racing ICT Dept Manager Miglia Turbo Am frum Yokshyer tha noes! |
10th Jul, 2008 at 03:36:43pm
Out of interest, what pistons and bottom end you using? 1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.
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730 Posts Member #: 1791 Post Whore Cranleigh, surrey |
10th Jul, 2008 at 03:43:10pm
Is that a question to me mike? "Cars are a lifetime of pain" |
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Site Admin 8506 Posts Member #: 16 Sold the turbo and seeing what the C20XE can do! Near Lincoln |
10th Jul, 2008 at 07:12:19pm
mine has genuine rubber engine mounts and 4 rose jointed steadies |
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