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Brett

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hi guys, im lookin go pick your brains*happy* i have been doing loads of research on different rwd subframes for the mini, my fav so far is the ring mini's rear mounted front subby, i saw a few good, rwd mini's at mitp last sunday witch seemed to be running mini style rear swing arms but with drive shafts, i cannot find any info on them at all, im confident in my building/ fabricating skills but not confident to build a complete rear subby and suspension geometry aswell, so im looking into some thing that can mount to say a rear beam conversion

what do most people who rear mount engines do, just fit a front subframe in the rear? im looking for tips, pics or websites, if any of you more knowledgeable people know off

thanks alot in advance*happy*

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well you need the hubs and everything that supports them (sus. arms tiebars cones damper) from a front sub but with the mountings to fit the rear sub points of a mini shell

Id start by geting a rear subframe making a jig of all the mountings and building your own within those boundaries that takes mini suspension and whatever engine but with rear sub mouting locations., taking intoo account the bodywork that will be in the way and have to be removed in the back of a mini


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On the Coupe, we use a whole front end subframe in the back. The bits are available to lock off the steering and for the gear change.


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I think Zcars may help you...
This was bought from them back in 2004:


This car is a Mini Pickup...with a turboed Suzuki Swift 16v, 4wd!!8-)
It is pretty quick!!


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no its not, as its crashed *tongue*


Brett

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On 21st Aug, 2008 codd_coupe said:
On the Coupe, we use a whole front end subframe in the back. The bits are available to lock off the steering and for the gear change.

that picture is great, helps alot with one of my ideas, edit, hows the handbrake work in this layout.. is it like a line lock on the rear circuit?*smiley*h

On 21st Aug, 2008 Minibar72 said:
I think Zcars may help you...
This was bought from them back in 2004:

This car is a Mini Pickup...with a turboed Suzuki Swift 16v, 4wd!!8-)
It is pretty quick!!


that swing arm is what i saw at mitp (maybe not that actual one*tongue*) but with the rose joints and the engine- drivetrain layout is of the same as my plans with the diff in the back, iirc the swift 4wd uses the justy drivetrain so thats something to think about

thanks alot, any more pics?*happy*

Edited by Brett on 21st Aug, 2008.

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On 21st Aug, 2008 miniminor63 said:
no its not, as its crashed *tongue*


Is it? Terminally?

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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shame I always loved that pickup

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I think the welsh one has it right!


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Brett

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i have emailed zcars, and with in 15 minutes Chris Allanson from zcars replyed with pics, looks like i am buying from them when the time comes :)

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they have 2 designs::)

EDIT i cant upload the 2nd pic :(


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Edited by Brett on 21st Aug, 2008.

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the other 2 pics dont seem to want to upload

and a pic of the engine im going to try and shoe horn in there (not my actual engine *wink*)


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Edited by Brett on 21st Aug, 2008.

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On 21st Aug, 2008 Vegard said:



On 21st Aug, 2008 miniminor63 said:
no its not, as its crashed *tongue*


Is it? Terminally?


He is rebuliding it as we speak...but slowly!
New turbo, new engine-management and so on...
He's looking for +300bhp.


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PS! Whats the price?


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VERY slowly according to Tony, he had not done anything the last year at least


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On 21st Aug, 2008 Brett said:
On 21st Aug, 2008 codd_coupe said:
On the Coupe, we use a whole front end subframe in the back. The bits are available to lock off the steering and for the gear change.

that picture is great, helps alot with one of my ideas, edit, hows the handbrake work in this layout.. is it like a line lock on the rear circuit?*smiley*



I've had the hubs modified (doesn't need much to do it), so that I am using MGF calipers. Any machine shop can easily do the mod, and gives you a proper self adjusting handbrake mechanism, as I used the cables and lever too.

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Brett

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On 21st Aug, 2008 Minibar72 said:
PS! Whats the price?


the price for the arms is £220 each + cv's plus brake setup plus obviously the coil overs plus the bespoke drive shafts at £110 each plus the material cost of the subframe and atleast a week to build*surprised*

i think im looking at close to a grand*frown* but this seems to be the simple-est option and in the long run the most reliable, mitp 50 gets closer by the day *surprised*


one think i will say i have sent 3 emails and got 3 replys within a single day, and Richard who i am dealing with knows his stuff *wink*

Edited by Brett on 22nd Aug, 2008.

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