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3006 Posts Member #: 2500 Post Whore Buckinghamshire |
22nd Aug, 2008 at 07:41:28pm
I,m looking at converting a RWD car from live axle to IRS and thinking of using a Mini front subframe with all the suspension,hubs etc and a solidly mounted diff from a Sierra or similar.Does anyone have some scrap or tatty bits that I could play around with before going for it,please ?. |
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![]() 399 Posts Member #: 793 Senior Member Milton Keynes |
22nd Aug, 2008 at 10:04:43pm
Single tower bolt later type or early twin bolt ? http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c248/spe...er1/mini007.jpg
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
23rd Aug, 2008 at 01:10:35am
I will have in about 4-6 weeks.
Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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3006 Posts Member #: 2500 Post Whore Buckinghamshire |
23rd Aug, 2008 at 05:02:53am
Gavi. Given it is going to be a non-standard installation,I dont think it matters.
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
23rd Aug, 2008 at 08:43:41am
On 23rd Aug, 2008 tadge44 said:
Is it easy to adapt it to coilovers do you think?. Coilovers on a Metro frame... If I understand coilovers right (I've never used them on a Mini) don't they attach to the damper mounting point on the top suspension arm ??? If so, you might be limited in choice of Metro as many models didn't have dampers (they just used the internal chatacteristics of the hydragas units) so I'm not sure if the mounting point exists on all of the Metro top arms. However, knowing Leyland/Rover, they probably only made the one arm whether they wanted a damper or not..... Two other points apart from the track being a bit wider, (a) the Metro would probably allow more suspension travel than a Mini as the top arm is longer and (b) the "A" and "K" series frames have different bottom arm arrangements, "A" being similar to a Mini (except the two tie rods are replaced by a single anti-roll bar) whereas the "K" has a more modern fabricated wishbone. Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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![]() 399 Posts Member #: 793 Senior Member Milton Keynes |
23rd Aug, 2008 at 09:32:53am
I've got several single bolt subframes some bare some with top arms, you're welcome to come and sort what you want I'm only in Stoke Hammond just outside Leighton Buzzard. (I can brobably sort the lower arms an drive shafts aswell) 07967506369 p.s NO COST FREE 8-)
On 23rd Aug, 2008 tadge44 said:
Gavi. Given it is going to be a non-standard installation,I dont think it matters. Rod.Thanks for the Metro idea.I dont need a wider track, but I guess it will be easier to source the Metro stuff in scrappys.Is it easy to adapt it to coilovers do you think?. http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c248/spe...er1/mini007.jpg
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![]() 861 Posts Member #: 951 Post Whore Bromsgrove |
23rd Aug, 2008 at 09:53:25am
What about the MG TF-metro subframes but with coil springs? 'Where does the engine go?' |
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
23rd Aug, 2008 at 10:48:05am
One other thought...
Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
23rd Aug, 2008 at 11:09:38am
thinking about this a bit I personally would go for the mini subframe,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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3006 Posts Member #: 2500 Post Whore Buckinghamshire |
25th Aug, 2008 at 06:55:44pm
Just got back after a weekend away and very grateful for all the suggestions.Looks like the Metro is definitely second choice. Let me now come clean -its intended for an A35(very close,mini13) mainly because the live axle is just too much unsprung weight now that I have got the power some where near right.I intend to spend time in the winter playing with this idea, so I will pm you Gavin,to take you up on your offer,BTW i am a founder member of the hackit and weld club . |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
25th Aug, 2008 at 07:06:30pm
I'm thinking of fabricating something along these lines using a Sierra diff and driveshafts.
Edited by Paul S on 25th Aug, 2008. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
25th Aug, 2008 at 07:39:33pm
On 25th Aug, 2008 tadge44 said:
Let me now come clean -its intended for an A35(very close,mini13) I guessed as much hence my comment about "assuming you want a 4" stud PCD". I agree with Joe that the Mini will give many more options on adjustment and the single anti roll bar (rather than two tie bars) does limit the Metro useage, but.... I wouldn't discount the Imp arrangement for a budget solution. OK, they will be hard to come by but they are nearly the right track (easily corrected for someone used to welding), the hubs have the right PCD and they are meant for RWD. It is actually very similar to the Sierra arrangement. Probably a lot easier to fit into the underside of a live axle car too. Anyway, good luck with your Winter experiments. Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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4314 Posts Member #: 700 Formerly British Open Classic The West Country |
31st Aug, 2008 at 08:45:36am
I found this the other day and thought of you:
Isambard Kingdom Brunel said:
Nothing is impossible if you are an Engineer |
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3006 Posts Member #: 2500 Post Whore Buckinghamshire |
7th Sep, 2008 at 06:05:22pm
Back again from a short break( in the rain) in N.Wales and the Lakes and just saw the item on IRS for MGB.Looks the biz but entails more fabrication than I had anticipated and also special hub carriers which puts up the cost a great deal. Ive said it before, but its still true -my toy allowance is limited.Thank you for your continued interest.I am seriously looking at the Imp rear suspension idea which sounds very simple if i can only source the parts.Dark nights looming so lots of opportunity for thinking and imagining. |
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