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ministef1

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Do these adjust toe in aswell, i have to adjust the toe in to toe out on my mini? any other ideas?

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Joe C

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yes,

IIRC they have horizontal grooves machined in the face,

you get it in the groove that gives the right camber, then do the nut up to keep it in that groove and flide it foward/back to give the right toe in.

if you cant get the camber quite right whip the late off and file the hole upward a bit till you can.

Edited by Joe C on 4th Sep, 2008.

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Tom Fenton
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Are you sure you want it to toe out on the rear?!


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miniminor63

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toe out on the rear is both fast and very fun!


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Not when the car won't go in a straight line it isn't (personal experience)


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On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
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miniminor63

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mine does now, but I had some troubles at first when I added the 16V engine to the car (gaining 60 hp at the wheels).

my setup:

Race LSD from minispares

front:
5 degrees castor
4.5 degree negative camber
1/16 " toe out

rear:
2 degrees negative camber
8 mm (difference between front and back of rear wheel) toe out.

The reason for the massive negative camber is the lack of arches on my car, forcing me to use S offset rims together with my 165/70-10" r32s

Edited by miniminor63 on 4th Sep, 2008.


wil_h

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That setup is bonkers, but the whole point of setup is to suit the individual driver/car/usage. so if it works for you fine.

I personally have a lot of toe in at the rear (more than standard). I use the ARBs to adjust the weight transfer and hence balance.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


miniminor63

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well, you are not the first one to raise the eyebrows. but it works and gives even tyre wear on the tracks and the lap times are much quicker than with the more conventional setup I had before:

front:
1/16 toe out
3 degrees castor
2.5 degrees negative camber

rear:
straight toe
0.5 degrees negative camber

This made the outside of the tyres overheat and go blue. Again the reason for this is the wide tyres on the narrow rims.

I am running without any ARBs and both my subframes are solidmounted. I am running red spots cones all around.

Tyrepressures around 28 psia cold.


Scruffy

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I tried parallel rear toe at Croft and had a trip to the gravel.

Toe in for me - I am with Wil!!!

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The DON also runs toe in at the rear.


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On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
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miniminor63

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I am not stating that my setup is the only one though and that rear toe in is wrong, and I agree that toe in gives a more stable car, although my rather extreme setup works for me.


Scruffy

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Tyre choice has a bearing here but unless you are running Mini seven tyres this will be your destiny!

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



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HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i wondered why the video carried on for so long!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


Joe C

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also worth mentioning,

toe out can work on twisty circuits.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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Anton

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quite a few mighty minis run toe out... as said it can work for the right circuit and driver


miniminor63

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On 6th Sep, 2008 Scruffy said:
Tyre choice has a bearing here but unless you are running Mini seven tyres this will be your destiny!


Well, I have not done that.... And I have the above mentioned setup for more than two years now.


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Haha, that man with the orange MC Hammer pants fell over!

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Sorry but uve got to love the sound of a kad on full song.

Amazing.


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