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998Turbo

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Has anyone considered or tried wet-manifold injection with a Turbo mini ?
I'm hearing a lot of problems with port injection (the siamesed ports play merry hell with injector pulse width calculations!) but I'm thinking of wet manifolding it.....

Any info at this point ? should i just give up before spending a heap of ca$$$$h ??

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J


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Hi, I'm also working on fuel injection for my mini, let me know if you find anything interesting about the wet manifold. Which ECU are you going to use for the injection?

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On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:

I think the welsh one has it right!


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Why are you using fuel injection? A carb can reliably produce high power figures, and it will do it cheaply!! You could spend all that spare cash on uprating the cooling and beefing up the boost.


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because he has already done that!


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Well, that miniwilliams car manages to produce 208bhp without the aid of fuel injection. I'm just curious as to why you would want to do it. I think you will find it will make the car less responsive if you have EFi.


998Turbo

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Just pondering at the moment....
With injection i can use ram-tuning when off-boost a LOT more effectivley as well as control the spark / fuel curves to the nth degree, as well as closed loop economy modes and boost control and electric fan control and ....... etc etc etc

Jim - I'm looking at a series 3 or 4 Wolf EMS with Hand-controller - i can tune with the laptop as well as the in-cabin controller (which doubles as a security device - you take it with you!!) and the EPROM is in an external "dongle" so you can have 3 or 4 tunings... economy for long trips and full-on for racing !!

I totally agree, a Carb is great for this setup..... but i think it is possible to have a VERY drivable VERY powerful Mini ....

Will be another 2/3 year project methinks........:cool:
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Haha hoggeys old post got me thinking and i found this....

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Doing it on purpose smacks of not-playing-nicely !!

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Yes i dis cheat abit but after reading this is made me chuckel, matt w with 208 bhp, he managed another 100 ontop of that. Jimster thinking about injection then did a 250bhp twin cam efi turbo lump.
As well as this people still struggle with 5port efi and it is bloody difficult maybe in another 10 years there will be direct injected mini heads on the market and economical 5 and 6 speed gearboxes that are strong. Does make you wonder *smiley*

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Fuel Injection is just better than a carb IMO with all the correct sensors fitted and working you'll be very surpirsed how much better it is and its more relieable than a carb aswell

I'll be running fuel injection on my k100 Supercharged build just alot more potentional with injection.


On 5th Sep, 2003 Ric said:
Well, that miniwilliams car manages to produce 208bhp without the aid of fuel injection. I'm just curious as to why you would want to do it. I think you will find it will make the car less responsive if you have EFi.


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On 8th Jan, 2013 Chalkie said:
Fuel Injection is just better than a carb IMO .


This is not your opinion at all. It is solid fact. But lets not start the new year with the same old discussion. Which I don't think was the point of this thread ressurection.

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Agreed!

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