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 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 11:36:47am
Off to the machine shop this afternoon with a pile of parts if Sturgeo stops coughing and sneezing.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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Site Admin  8506 Posts Member #: 16 Sold the turbo and seeing what the C20XE can do! Near Lincoln |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 11:54:39am
i wouldnt bother with the gearbox fixings personally. It doesnt leave much meat left in the gearbox flange and i would prefer it there.
Edited by iain on 3rd Oct, 2008. |
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 9319 Posts Member #: 59 First mini turbo to get in the 12's & site perv Herefordshire |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 11:56:09am
DO you really need the 4 bolt strap and cross drilled crank?
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 12:01:03pm
Good points. The spec is a bit overkill.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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9319 Posts Member #: 59 First mini turbo to get in the 12's & site perv Herefordshire |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 12:10:51pm
yes
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Site Admin  9404 Posts Member #: 58 455bhp per ton 12 sec 1/4 mile road legal mini Sunny Bridgend, South Wales |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 12:14:38pm
don't see the point in 11 stud'ing the head, I've never done it, and never had problems Team www.sheepspeed.com Racing
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9319 Posts Member #: 59 First mini turbo to get in the 12's & site perv Herefordshire |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 12:16:40pm
I once blew my head gasket out of the side where the 11th stud lived
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 1346 Posts Member #: 2340 Post Whore Dublin Ireland |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 12:17:17pm
I up rate the gear box fixings to M8 I have had gearbox bolt failure it is a very worth wile process although I do see your point Iain, the bolts are just not capable of holding a gearbox with more than 160hp It may hold together but when you go to strip the motor after a hard season you will more than likely find that some of the bolts have stretched or worse pulled although using a sealant like well seal will stop the leak it is not fixing the problem that causes the leak and also can contribute to gearbox failure as far a meat in the gear box flange when you increase to M8 you only have to overbore the gearbox bolt holes by 0.9mm as the holes are all ready 7.2 and 8.1mm will fit an M8 cap bolt,
On 17th Feb, 2009 Rob H said:
I find the easiest way is to super glue the bolt to the end of one of my fingers. ______________________________________________________ |
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 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 12:17:41pm
ARP Mians studs/ bolts are not required either. The Standard A+ bolts are more than up to the job. Just dont use any of the crap bolts you get with the caps/ straps
Edited by Sprocket on 3rd Oct, 2008. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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 4629 Posts Member #: 20 My sister is so fit I won't show anyone her picture Lake District |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 01:28:10pm
For the cost of two studs & drilling the head & block i'd go for the 11studs, it can't do any harm. The same goes for the undercrown jets, maybe not essential, but cheap & imo worthwhile for the cost involved. |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 01:39:21pm
Sturgeo has just made the point that we may want to convert to a K1100 head at some point in the future. Maybe quite soon if we cannot get the Siamese code working properly.
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 02:45:41pm
I am sure that Matt Woods told me arounf 4 years ago that he still uses the stock A+ studs on the engine to trans.
On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Sorry to say My Herpes are no better Ready to feel Ancient ??? This is 26 years old as of 2022 https://youtu.be/YQQokcoOzeY |
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 02:57:30pm
Oh, I would do the undercrown cooling.
On 4th May, 2007 Avonbar Racing said:
Hi guys, we've always done the powerflow oil pump. Never advertised a superflow item?? Anyway.....Minispares have obviously played that copying game again and started selling our pumps. There's nothing we can do about that. I think they charge £38 for one. To you guys we can do them for £40. Not a load of difference. The only reason they can do them for that price is because they buy such big quantities. The amount of free technical info we give out on the phone has got to be worth something 
Take it easy Agree with the above comments on the mains bolts too... On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Sorry to say My Herpes are no better Ready to feel Ancient ??? This is 26 years old as of 2022 https://youtu.be/YQQokcoOzeY |
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 7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 02:59:28pm
On 3rd Oct, 2008 PaulH said:
I up rate the gear box fixings to M8 I have had gearbox bolt failure it is a very worth wile process although I do see your point Iain, the bolts are just not capable of holding a gearbox with more than 160hp It may hold together but when you go to strip the motor after a hard season you will more than likely find that some of the bolts have stretched or worse pulled although using a sealant like well seal will stop the leak it is not fixing the problem that causes the leak and also can contribute to gearbox failure as far a meat in the gear box flange when you increase to M8 you only have to overbore the gearbox bolt holes by 0.9mm as the holes are all ready 7.2 and 8.1mm will fit an M8 cap bolt, all IHMO backed up by my own experience of course. At least fit some 5/16UNFs in there instead of metric ones. M8 bolts are shit to have anywhere on your Mini. They WILL find their way elsewhere. On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 02:59:42pm
If you do go K1100 - you have a lot of block prep work to do later - so why go overboard now? Leave that till the point that you need to.
On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Sorry to say My Herpes are no better Ready to feel Ancient ??? This is 26 years old as of 2022 https://youtu.be/YQQokcoOzeY |
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2395 Posts Member #: 229 Gavin@minispares.com kent |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 03:47:12pm
Even if your order a genuine Rover oil pump a powerflow pump is supplied, our powerflow pumps are £29.38 now. |
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 (2)[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/150672766@N03/]Rod Sugden[/url], on Fli) 5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 03:53:56pm
On 3rd Oct, 2008 TurboDave said: Next - 'oil pump' - write 'Avonbar powerflow' next to the high capacity part and you'll have no concerns. Note this below: On 4th May, 2007 Avonbar Racing said:
Hi guys, we've always done the powerflow oil pump. Never advertised a superflow item?? Anyway.....Minispares have obviously played that copying game again and started selling our pumps. There's nothing we can do about that. I think they charge £38 for one. To you guys we can do them for £40. Not a load of difference. The only reason they can do them for that price is because they buy such big quantities. The amount of free technical info we give out on the phone has got to be worth something Don't quite understand this.... I bought mine about 3 weeks ago from MiniSpares and it's a Powerflow - at least that's what is cast into it as the manufacturer's name and It's identical to the photos on Avonbar's website. I had done a search on oil pumps and read that thread before buying and took Ian to mean that MiniSpares had copied his choice of pump, not done a copy of it. Hence "The only reason they can do them for that price is because they buy such big quantities". Even MiniSpares couldn't get away with mis-using a Trade Name right down to casting it into a copy ??? EDIT - I hadn't read Gavin's post when I submitted this, I am slow typing :) Edited by Rod S on 3rd Oct, 2008. Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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1346 Posts Member #: 2340 Post Whore Dublin Ireland |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 04:03:42pm
On 3rd Oct, 2008 Vegard said:
On 3rd Oct, 2008 PaulH said:
I up rate the gear box fixings to M8 I have had gearbox bolt failure it is a very worth wile process although I do see your point Iain, the bolts are just not capable of holding a gearbox with more than 160hp It may hold together but when you go to strip the motor after a hard season you will more than likely find that some of the bolts have stretched or worse pulled although using a sealant like well seal will stop the leak it is not fixing the problem that causes the leak and also can contribute to gearbox failure as far a meat in the gear box flange when you increase to M8 you only have to overbore the gearbox bolt holes by 0.9mm as the holes are all ready 7.2 and 8.1mm will fit an M8 cap bolt, all IHMO backed up by my own experience of course. At least fit some 5/16UNFs in there instead of metric ones. M8 bolts are shit to have anywhere on your Mini. They WILL find their way elsewhere. I refer you to the post also made by sprocket. Get 12.9 M8 cap bolts and the job is done. On 17th Feb, 2009 Rob H said:
I find the easiest way is to super glue the bolt to the end of one of my fingers. ______________________________________________________ |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 05:21:50pm
Well, Tis done.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 05:52:36pm
On 3rd Oct, 2008 Vegard said:
At least fit some 5/16UNFs in there instead of metric ones. M8 bolts are shit to have anywhere on your Mini. They WILL find their way elsewhere. I thought you at least would be wise enough to realise that there is something wrong when the bolt goes tight on only three or four threads. I can see the difference just by looking at them. thread pitch is noticebly different Besides, all, later minis especialy the MPis are a crazy mix of metric and imperial. I will be honest and say, why bother trying to be nostalgic about imperial bolts, where if you can use them, metric are much easier to come by in whatever grade size and type off the shelf. Edited by Sprocket on 3rd Oct, 2008. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 05:58:58pm
Yummy
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 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 05:59:54pm
anything i change to metric is easy to pot as its got a cap head. On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 06:24:24pm
On 3rd Oct, 2008 mini13 said:
anything i change to metric is easy to pot as its got a cap head. Exactly 
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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 6748 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 07:26:44pm
On 3rd Oct, 2008 Paul S said:
Yummy 
MED/Omega FIS pistons. Forged +0.020". mmmm spanktabulous.!!! paul could you show the underside of that for me ? with regard to the the engine , i would build the ultimate engine now .if you think you want a k headed mini ,one day ,do it now . 5 port wize , spend all you can on the cam and the head , these are the keys to a high power a series ,(imo) that and a well engineered ic. matts k headed car is running around 100 terms on 6 psi with a 3 sec 60 ft ..so with a k head you dont need to use a lot of boost and the sturgmiester can get used to its antics . in the long run ,building the engine you working up to building first , instread of the a series then k head , is the cheapest way to do it ..if thats your ultimate goal. hope it goes well regards robert Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
3rd Oct, 2008 at 08:04:40pm
On 3rd Oct, 2008 robert said:
paul could you show the underside of that for me ? with regard to the the engine , i would build the ultimate engine now .if you think you want a k headed mini ,one day ,do it now . 5 port wize , spend all you can on the cam and the head , these are the keys to a high power a series ,(imo) that and a well engineered ic. matts k headed car is running around 100 terms on 6 psi with a 3 sec 60 ft ..so with a k head you dont need to use a lot of boost and the sturgmiester can get used to its antics . in the long run ,building the engine you working up to building first , instread of the a series then k head , is the cheapest way to do it ..if thats your ultimate goal. hope it goes well regards robert I'm funding the engine primarily to prove my manifolds, the GT1752 and fuel injection at 200+hp. The manifolds may then become commercially available. This is why we are sticking to the 5-port for now. Sturgeo is providing the car and hopefully will help build it and pay for bodywork and chassis work. If the fuel injection cannot be made to work properly on my 998, then we will re-assess and possibly go for the K head. Underside of piston: 
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