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graemec

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Not mine so not put it into For Sale, but thought this might interest some of you:
http://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/index...howtopic=101083


matty

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Yeah I saw this...seems quite cheap?

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1/4mile in 13.2sec @ 111 terminal on 15psi


Miniwilliams

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yes looks good untill i saw the 5th gear ratio, i'll be sticking with my 4th for now, NO point in having a 1.1 5th gear for the road IMO!

Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
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Scruffy

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On 16th Oct, 2008 Miniwilliams said:
yes looks good untill i saw the 5th gear ratio, i'll be sticking with my 4th for now, NO point in having a 1.1 5th gear for the road IMO!


Why not? Fit a 2.7 and should be fine - whats the first gear ratio?

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



Joe C

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kads are 2.5 firsts IIRC

Edited by Joe C on 17th Oct, 2008.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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Miniwilliams

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why not, well for a road car IMO it would be helpful to have a lower then 1.1 ratio for a 5th gear, other wise why don't i just fit a 2.7 diff to my 4 gears and save £1500, as i'll gain not revs and economy from it!

Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on a carb?
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on Injection?

http://www.mattwoodsphotography.com


Scruffy

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On 17th Oct, 2008 Miniwilliams said:
why not, well for a road car IMO it would be helpful to have a lower then 1.1 ratio for a 5th gear, other wise why don't i just fit a 2.7 diff to my 4 gears and save £1500, as i'll gain not revs and economy from it!


Cos most cars won't pull a 2.7 without loosing too many revs on each gearchange. Fitting a 2.7 to a four speed would be like having a 3.1 on a conventional overdrive (0.865) ratio 5 speed except the power loss in 5th would be less as it is 1:1.

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



Hedgemonkey

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I like the look of the KAD box very much. Trapaezoid dogs have a longer life than involute dogs and engage better than "bean" dogs. It's a beautiful piece of engineering. The snag is close ratios. I accidentally bought a challenge gearkit and it has the problem inherant to powerful engines, whether they be FI or big capacity. You need a good spread of gears.

I'm sure that people will disagree, but overdriven 5th's are prone to huge bearing loads, especially if helical. I like the idea of a straight through 5th and a lower first, running a longer legged FD.

The KAD 2.4 first is lower than my ST 2.54 first which limits my final drive choice. Either that or it's a clutch plate a week. (when it's working! )

The KAD box is a beautiful design and if there were a set of spread ratios, it would make so much sense, I can't understand it, coming from people who build serious engines. You just don't need those ratios, unless you are doing rolling starts or racing short stroke screamers in the 60's.

Someone will do it at some point, as there is clearly a demand for a quick changing 5 speed box which allows a better spread of gears/speed.

It will happen in due course.

Bugger off, I'm getting there.


robert

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The KAD 2.4 first is lower than my ST 2.54 first which limits my final drive choice. Either that or it's a clutch plate a week.


do you mean higher stu?

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM


Hedgemonkey

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I always get it the wrong way around. Longer legged!

Higher!

Bugger off, I'm getting there.

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