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JsfMini.MT

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I'm thinkin of buyin an mg turbo engine of a guy .The thing is it's already been tear down and im buying it as parts.

Could please help in what things to look out 4? Especially since I don't know if the that took it to bits guy has any mechanical skills

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philc

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look at wear on the bearings, crank journals and cylinder bores. Thats all i can think of, i am sure the other guys will advise you more


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As above, but to do it properly you really need some measuring tools, ie micrometers and, ideally, a bore gauge.

With experience, you can pick up severe wear just with a fingernail (ridge near the top of the cylinder bores on the thrust side, ridges on the main bearing journals where the shell oil groove would be, etc...) but only if you've examined similar before.

But, no offence intended, unless you are experienced mechanically, you can tell very little just by looking.....

Unless something is actually broken in half ......

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I think that the question to ask is why do you want turbo engine?

These are generally worn more than standard 1275s, and offer no benefit if a rebuild is required.

Look here http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=4724

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


JsfMini.MT

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Well the plan is to overhaul the engine in the next 2 years till I get me license then maybe tune it for some RWYB's and daily driving

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you can bet your ass its clapped out, it would be wise to do a full rebuild.






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Another thing is, I would hate to get a box of engine rather than a complete engine if you know what I mean. Theres nothing worse than buying an engine in bits and discovering there some bits missing or say pistons that haven't been marked up and you don't know what goes where.

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On 9th Dec, 2008 BENROSS said:
you can bet your ass its clapped out, it would be wise to do a full rebuild.


That's the plan and anyway.

Since, I'm not so experienced would be a bad idea if i'll assemble the whole engine up ?I plan on leaving the setting up to some professionals

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If it is cheap enough then go for it, but keep in mind it is not a complete engine but more a collection of bits to set you off that can't be bought new, e.g. block, rods, crank, head, casings etc. Anything that can wear probably will have done and will need throwing away and replacing.


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JsfMini.MT

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It's around £87 . But the whole collection of parts had been taken off a sole metty,back at the same owner

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£87 is cheap if everything (or even majority) of the parts are all there.


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what is being offered for the sale, turbo, entire stripped engine and gearbox, manifolds etc?

On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding


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On 10th Dec, 2008 minimole23 said:
what is being offered for the sale, turbo, entire stripped engine and gearbox, manifolds etc?


entire stripped engine and gearbox, manifolds etc

Edited by JsfMini.MT on 10th Dec, 2008.

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JsfMini.MT

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Apparently this is an n/a mg . apart from the carb and turbo are there any other major differences?

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the cam in the n/a mg is slightly hotter, but will work well for a turbo engine.

the exhaust valves in the turbo have thicker stems and are sodium cooled.

the crank in the turbo engine is harder wearing

the pistons are different.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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JsfMini.MT

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So if i''ll keep the n/a pistons and add a turbo will i lunch the engine?

And will the crank be a prob concerning reliability?

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Joe C

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the crank will be ok, its just that the proppe turbo ones seem to last forever due to being harder.

not sure on the pistons personaly, but i would expect them to be ok up to about 8-10 psi boost.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



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I'd have a read up in FAQ matey, not being rude but it sounds like you are starting out and have a lot to learn, however you are in the right place as all the answers are on here for you, but it is for you to look for them.


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On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


JsfMini.MT

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Yeah i'm a beginner Tom , already used FAQ very helpful but found few bits concerning MG na turbo motor

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NA = normally aspirated, e.g. NON turbo

*Yes*


On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:


On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


JsfMini.MT

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On 11th Dec, 2008 Tom Fenton said:
NA = normally aspirated, e.g. NON turbo

*Yes*


Knew that Tom*happy*
I was searching regarding the reliability and performance of non turbo crankshafts

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CAM6232 is used in both turbo and non turbo engines and does the job just fine. CAM6581 is fitted to a limited number of turbo engines, with no obvious reason, and seems to be harder wearing than the 6232.
Either of these cranks will do the job just fine.

Have a read of this post-

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=4724


On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:


On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


JsfMini.MT

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Thanks TOM very nteresting read .

Just to conferm the n/a oil pump is different from the turbo?

Edited by JsfMini.MT on 11th Dec, 2008.

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Alot of people use Avonbar or Minispares oil pumps. It will be a slot drive whether N/A or turbo.

On 19th Jan, 2010 wil_h said:
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On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
I feel all special knowing that I've given your mum my wood.


Been neglecting Turbo'd 'A' series..............

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