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Right, bear with me.

I have a 2.0l engine, and a sports exhaust from an R1

now, as the the 2.0 engine is twice as big as the R1, yet revs half as much. I can use the exhaust on the 2.0l engine and not restrict the exhaust flow????

I dunno, just an idea!?

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no, Pipe diameter and material determin back pressure and resonace and pressure wave, so no your power curve will be all over the shop. thats why good after market systems cost so much because they are tuned for the specific engine type.

Length diamiter and bends in a pipe all combine to affect the performance of the engine. So no.

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is it for Normally asperated or turbo charged? they require two diffrent exhuast setups, eg N/a cars require some back pressue, where as forcred induction tend not to need it as much. as for silencing turbos act as a silencer :)

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On 8th Jan, 2009 Paul R said:
is it for Normally asperated or turbo charged? they require two diffrent exhuast setups, eg N/a cars require some back pressue, where as forcred induction tend not to need it as much. as for silencing turbos act as a silencer :)


N/A engines don't need backpressure. You're thinking of two-strokes.

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Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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On 8th Jan, 2009 Vegard said:



On 8th Jan, 2009 Paul R said:
is it for Normally asperated or turbo charged? they require two diffrent exhuast setups, eg N/a cars require some back pressue, where as forcred induction tend not to need it as much. as for silencing turbos act as a silencer :)


N/A engines don't need backpressure. You're thinking of two-strokes.

I beg to differ.

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If you just want to use the silencer I think it would work OK.


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Yeah V!!!

Apparently the k series vvc engine has a right tantrum if you dont have any back pressure


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On 8th Jan, 2009 Vegard said:

N/A engines don't need backpressure. You're thinking of two-strokes.


Why does a NA engine lose power if it has a big hole in its exhaust then?


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On 8th Jan, 2009 Tom Fenton said:



On 8th Jan, 2009 Vegard said:

N/A engines don't need backpressure. You're thinking of two-strokes.


Why does a NA engine lose power if it has a big hole in its exhaust then?


Coz the fueling is then wrong due to the VE change.

If an NA engine is set up with the correct fueling and ignition for zero back pressure then it will be fine.

If an injected car loses back pressure, if it hasn't got closed loop control on a wideband lambda, then it will lose power.

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i have heard this also, but reading about some civic tuning parts for a friend the spoon sports exhaust system is only sutible for N/a cars not turbo because it holds backpressure for N/a performance or somthing along thoes lines


On 8th Jan, 2009 Nic said:
Yeah V!!!

Apparently the k series vvc engine has a right tantrum if you dont have any back pressure

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anyone here getting back pressure and gas velocity and momentum (with the bad side-effect of back pressure) mixed up here. you never want back pressure. you do want some momentum in the exhaust gas to help scavenging.. excuse the spelling :)

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And you want a reverse pulse on the intake stroke as the exhaust valve is closing - I think.

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On 8th Jan, 2009 Tom Fenton said:



On 8th Jan, 2009 Vegard said:

N/A engines don't need backpressure. You're thinking of two-strokes.


Why does a NA engine lose power if it has a big hole in its exhaust then?


Because the scavenging of the exhaust won't make the exhaust gas completely empty the combustion chamber.

For fucks sake, read a book on four-strokes...

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for forced induction the best exhaust is none only a tuned length of pipe.

if you can stand the noise.

check the flow rating of the bike box and if its above your 2litre engines bhp figures ....... it will be fine






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this might sound a silly question but how do you calculate a tuned length system?


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It will sound sweet anyway haha


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If the exhaust came off a 175hp R1, then it will flow adequately for (at least) a 175hp 2.0L car engine. Off course you will have to mate it to a header that suits your engine.

Generally speaking, a free flowing exhaust will give an increase in peak power at the expense of mid-range torque

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i second this :)


On 8th Jan, 2009 James_H said:
this might sound a silly question but how do you calculate a tuned length system?

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On 8th Jan, 2009 evolotion said:
anyone here getting back pressure and gas velocity and momentum (with the bad side-effect of back pressure) mixed up here. you never want back pressure. you do want some momentum in the exhaust gas to help scavenging.. excuse the spelling :)

My bad sorry.

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wasnt aimed at anyone in particualr mate :) no need to apologise *tongue*

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