AN & JIC Fittings
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Can anyone tell me if AN6 fittings are the same as JIC -6 fittings.

Just ordering up the fuel system for the Mig, but getting concerned about mixing standards.

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

Ive looked into this before

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=123538

Im sure i found a convertor on Wiki?? But heres your answer.

Edited by MikeRace on 11th Feb, 2009.

1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.


Fibreglass Parts? - http://www.tdkracing.co.uk/
Split Rims? - http://www.force-racing.co.uk/

Thanks Mike.

Found this:

Edited by Paul S on 11th Feb, 2009.

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

Ahh good find!

1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.


Fibreglass Parts? - http://www.tdkracing.co.uk/
Split Rims? - http://www.force-racing.co.uk/

Those -6 fittings are expensive, either Goodridge or Mocal. £8 for an inline and £15 for a 90 degree jobbie.

Anyone know of a cheaper way of holding 5 bar fuel pressure? I'm not going to risk jubilee clips or the like.

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

5BAR!

1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.


Fibreglass Parts? - http://www.tdkracing.co.uk/
Split Rims? - http://www.force-racing.co.uk/

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

If you use decent EFI rated hose with pukka hose clamps you'll have no problem at 5bar.
By pukka hose clamps I mean the ones that have a proper thread, not the 'jubilee' style.

However, the most important thing is having a raised lip on the hose to prevent it pulling off, and putting the hose clip in the appropriate place (i.e. before the raised lip, not on it - LOL).

In the big picture, 5 bar acting on a 6mm, or even 8mm ID hose is barely tickling a hose clamp; 1 bar coolant pressure acting on a 40mm coolant hose is a greater risk if you think about it.


oh yes - those damn fittings are expensive!!! I used to get all my stuff from ThinkAuto if it helps.

that blue 'push on' oil/fuel hose can handle 18 bar Paul, looks tidy too

http://www.thinkauto.com/pushon1.htm

"Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun"

"did you know you can toast potato waffles?"

get the end swagged at somewhere like a hyrdraulic hose trade shop they'll never come off. try somewhere like pirtek.

On our prototype diesel engines we are running 40Bar+ iirc.

when we test new fuel systems each engine has to have a 20mm thick stainless plate enclosure covering the whole engine. on one of the engines that had a fuel leak, the enclosure looked like someone had punched a hole in a piece of tin foil LOL.

My sister looks like me but with long hair! so save that one for your wank bank i dare you!...

The lad that made my frame sells them, not goodridge but exact the same. think there about a quid cheaper but i get 20% aswell.

Rick

40 bar doesn't sound like much on a diesel???
Numbers up/over 1800bar seem to be commonplace on modern diesels.

9.85 @ 145mph
202mph standing mile
speed didn't kill me, but taxation probably will

I'm curious of what a "jubilee style" clamp is in comparison to one with a thread?

Are they the ones with pressed in holes for thread?

yep,

the proper FI ones have a screw and nut.

Jubilee clip:
http://www.airlink-compressors.co.uk/Acces..._mild_steel.jpg



Pukka hose clamp:
http://homepage.mac.com/ratwell/.Pictures/...-ABACatalog.jpg



And these things are the absolute daddies - I had just one a few years ago that came with a piece of fuel hose - never found a supplier for the clamps though.

http://www.mikesatur.com/archivesite/images/clips.jpg

from:

http://www.mikesatur.com/archivesite/fx06.html



Don't get me wrong - side-drive hose clips are generally good - and pukka jubilees (UK made, not chinese junk) are really good for this kind of hose clip. I always grease them before using for the first time however - as you're tightening, too much of what you're putting in is not becoming clamping force.

http://www.mikalor.co.uk/

Nope, their smallest one is 19mm:
http://www.powerengineering.co.uk/mikalor/.../dimensions.pdf

race car hose clamp

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productse...sp?Product=3613


Marine clamps are similar, easier to find, usually a bit more expensive because they are stainless steel.

Well, in the end I've bought this off Zenaracing:



It appears expensive until you work out the cost of the hose and the fittings.

I've also bought an FSE pump, filter and regulator from Merlin - all complete with -6 connections so it should all fit together well.

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

So how much did you offer?

ABA used to make the small fuel line clips. No idea who does them now....

Local motor factors here keep them though.

The Jubilee style, with a worm/screw, should never be used on critical small diameter hosing. They simply do not tighten round.

9.85 @ 145mph
202mph standing mile
speed didn't kill me, but taxation probably will

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

I've used these guys for stuff. Not bad on price to.

http://www.auto-performance.co.uk/index.php?cPath=38_56

Also try :-

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=223481

Si

I drill holes in everything..!