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492 Posts Member #: 3684 Senior Member wisborough green west sussex |
13th Feb, 2009 at 01:54:50pm
my crank has been lightened and balanced but is it worth hardeding it as well as i will be running between 160-200bhp cant find anyting on this on the search! |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
13th Feb, 2009 at 02:19:33pm
Forget tufriding, think nitriding.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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8215 Posts Member #: 90 Post Whore Somewhere around Swindon |
13th Feb, 2009 at 02:28:17pm
whats the difference wil Crystal Sound Audio said:
Why wolfie...you should have your name as Fuckfaceshithead ! "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."-Douglas Adams |
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![]() 6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
13th Feb, 2009 at 06:52:17pm
On 13th Feb, 2009 wolfie said:
whats the difference wil litterally the name, tuftriding is an ICI registered process, if i'm not mistaken, , nitrocarburising is the more common term, |
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492 Posts Member #: 3684 Senior Member wisborough green west sussex |
13th Feb, 2009 at 07:38:32pm
so it only costs roughly £30 to get done and its worth doing if you are going to stress your end? |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
13th Feb, 2009 at 08:12:46pm
Nitriding is not nitrocarbonising.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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![]() 7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
14th Feb, 2009 at 09:10:54am
You can only nitride EN40B cranks as far as I know. On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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![]() 1030 Posts Member #: 1291 Post Whore Suffolk / Birmingham |
14th Feb, 2009 at 05:05:20pm
yeh, you cant 'nitride' a cast crank can you?
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
14th Feb, 2009 at 05:07:44pm
Cast? On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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![]() 1030 Posts Member #: 1291 Post Whore Suffolk / Birmingham |
14th Feb, 2009 at 05:18:17pm
yeh cast, as in iron, not steel, cast not forged/billet |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
14th Feb, 2009 at 07:49:50pm
We I had it done to a standard 998 crank. Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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![]() 6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
14th Feb, 2009 at 07:56:13pm
On 14th Feb, 2009 wil_h said:
We I had it done to a standard 998 crank. do you know for sure it was Nitrided . or is it possible the place you took it too just either Tuftrided or Nitrocarburised , i was also told by the firm that carry out my Tufdriding that only illustrious steels can ne Nitrided. carl |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
14th Feb, 2009 at 08:05:00pm
It was deffo a heat process not a chemical process Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
14th Feb, 2009 at 08:10:14pm
On 14th Feb, 2009 slater said:
yeh cast, as in iron, not steel, cast not forged/billet I'm pretty sure that you will find that all A/A+ cranks are made from forged steel not cast. Most are forged EN16T. EDIT: Found this: Interestingly, he claims that the Metro Turbo crank was a SG Iron casting. Edited by Paul S on 14th Feb, 2009. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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84 Posts Member #: 2404 Advanced Member Braintree, Essex |
14th Feb, 2009 at 08:52:03pm
On 14th Feb, 2009 wil_h said:
It was deffo a heat process not a chemical process Actually Tuftriding is a higher-temperature process than nitriding, as it involves immersing the part in a bath of molten cyanide. Mmm, tasty! Geoff |
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![]() 1030 Posts Member #: 1291 Post Whore Suffolk / Birmingham |
15th Feb, 2009 at 10:28:48am
nitriding is a chemical process tho too isnt it? they just bung ammonia in the furnace as a gas so it diffuses into the metal and forms nitrates with the verious alloy elements in the steel. Tuftriding is a simlar thing but with sodium cyanide in a liquid bath? the advantage of the nitriding being the lower tempretures involved dont warp the crank like sometimes happens with tuftriding and the hard layer produced is thicker with the nitriding.
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![]() 6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
15th Feb, 2009 at 03:29:08pm
On 15th Feb, 2009 slater said:
nitriding is a chemical process tho too isnt it? they just bung ammonia in the furnace as a gas so it diffuses into the metal and forms nitrates with the verious alloy elements in the steel. Tuftriding is a simlar thing but with sodium cyanide in a liquid bath? the advantage of the nitriding being the lower tempretures involved dont warp the crank like sometimes happens with tuftriding and the hard layer produced is thicker with the nitriding. thats about as far as my knowlage goes. which is as good an explaination as iut gets and we need, carl |
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84 Posts Member #: 2404 Advanced Member Braintree, Essex |
15th Feb, 2009 at 08:41:02pm
Sure you don't want any more on nitriding? I'd hate to think Essex Education Authority wasted their money when they paid for me to get a BSc in chemistry Geoff |
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
15th Feb, 2009 at 11:08:47pm
hello! local boy eh? On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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![]() 4360 Posts Member #: 1459 En-suite user Braintree, Essex |
15th Feb, 2009 at 11:37:13pm
I'm surprised Essex Council can afford to pay for anything! On 19th Jan, 2010 wil_h said:
I would start the furthest place from the finish. On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
I feel all special knowing that I've given your mum my wood. Been neglecting Turbo'd 'A' series.............. |
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
16th Feb, 2009 at 12:01:13am
PMSL!!!!
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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84 Posts Member #: 2404 Advanced Member Braintree, Essex |
16th Feb, 2009 at 08:50:56pm
On 15th Feb, 2009 Jason G said:
I'm surprised Essex Council can afford to pay for anything! It was a long time ago! Geoff |
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![]() 9812 Posts Member #: 332 Resident Cylinder Head Modifier Mitsi Evo 7, 911, Cossie. & all the chavs ...... won no problem |
17th Feb, 2009 at 12:55:42am
so its nitriding the chaps.....lol
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4309 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
5th Dec, 2010 at 06:54:40pm
What is ni-tempering. Google hasn't turned much up.
On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
5th Dec, 2010 at 07:05:41pm
Nitride tempering.
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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