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ive got an interesting situation here ,goes like this .


ex university government research site .sold into the private sector in 2000. new owner sells off 4 houses to domestic freehold .

electricity comes to sub station in rest of site ,(now converted to industrial units ),this also then supplies the 4 houses .

so houses pay site owner for metered use measured on each houses sub meter .

owner of site now refusing to pay seb ,so cuttoff iminent,and threatened twice so far ,last tuesday and 'sometime this week'
by scottish and southern electricity board.

i got the seb engineer around to look at situation ,and see if he could simply swap sub meters for seb meters ,

on site he said ,cant see why not ,after returning to base he said no way my manager sais we dont do that .

i said but its all ex government top quality instalation ..he said no we have to dig new trenches and do the install ,or you can dig it and we install..site owner is getting quote ..

now does anybody have any experience with ex government site metering and the swap over to private sector ? are the seb just trying to make work ,it seeems ridiculous waste of energy to dig it all up and put the same back ,.

i do have a solicitor generated document from site owner saying hell supply leccy ,but want to avoid this route if poss .

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robert .

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I'm not going to be any help, but I don't fully understand. Surely if the electricty is cut off it will get cut off at the substation (as that's what has not been paid), they won't come to each building, as it's not their meteres.

So just changing your meter won't make any difference to your predicament. I must have this wrong, please explain.

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I'm involved with a site up here where my client has 2 sub-stations/transformers on site and has installed sub-metering for the sub-divided units.

As it stands, the provider is likley to be providing an HV supply to the site which is taken to the transformer - the transformer is likely to be the property of the land-owner, therefore the supplier is unlikely to have control over supply or metering beyond this point.

Got to be honest and say I'd rather have my own supply which you would have complete control over, and the opportunity to shop around for better rates when need be. getting a clean supply in might be costly though


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On 4th Mar, 2009 wil_h said:
I'm not going to be any help, but I don't fully understand. Surely if the electricty is cut off it will get cut off at the substation (as that's what has not been paid), they won't come to each building, as it's not their meteres.

So just changing your meter won't make any difference to your predicament. I must have this wrong, please explain.


the idea wil was to have seb take out the sub stn meter ,on site ,and put a direct link in there ,then put seb meters on each house and each unit ,so charging each person directly ,as in a normal site .

the transformer is on the telegraph pole outside the site ,then feeds the normal 3 ph to the sub station ,which is a building on site with a big genny and so on in it ,, the site was a gas attack proof secure research establishment .

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On 4th Mar, 2009 robert said:



On 4th Mar, 2009 wil_h said:
I'm not going to be any help, but I don't fully understand. Surely if the electricty is cut off it will get cut off at the substation (as that's what has not been paid), they won't come to each building, as it's not their meteres.

So just changing your meter won't make any difference to your predicament. I must have this wrong, please explain.


the idea wil was to have seb take out the sub stn meter ,on site ,and put a direct link in there ,then put seb meters on each house and each unit ,so charging each person directly ,as in a normal site .

the transformer is on the telegraph pole outside the site ,then feeds the normal 3 ph to the sub station ,which is a building on site with a big genny and so on in it ,, the site was a gas attack proof secure research establishment .




Problem is that all of the equipment from the main substation to your own front door is the property of the landowner, so they cant just remove the sub meter and link it through, it would still be essentially supplied via his distribution system that he is not paying the bill for.

They will have to install a fresh incomer from the road straight to your property, totally bypassing any of the previous distribution system.

However, I do not think that this is your fault. Someway or another they need to work it out between themselves who is going to pay for the works to be carried out, otherwise they are going to loose all of the custom if they cut off the main supply.










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wont help mate as its not high profile enough to be in there intrest

On 4th Mar, 2009 BENROSS said:
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It seems that because the main supply went to what you call the substation on his site, because that isn't the area board's substation, you are not buying your electricity from the area board but from the owner of the "substation" - even from their diesel generator if it ever runs......

So I can understand SEB's point, that all they can do is run you a brand new supply (which would be owned by them) from the transformer on the pole (because they don't own the current supply point), but what you have now must come down to whatever is written in the covenants, deeds, etc., for the sale of the four houses.

ie, does the owner of the "substation" have a legal responsibility to provide you with electricity.

TBH I'd consult a solicitor - most household insurance policies have a "legal assistance" bit included as part of your cover.

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thank you very much to everyone for chipping in on this .

t2 clubby ,
the idea was to get all connections after the man seb meter put on seperate seb meters ... so all the units and houses ,and the owner would sign over the cables to the seb ,since its an ex government site ,its quite possible they put them in in the 1st place ,but watever ,its all government quality installation .


rod ,
you are correct that i buy my leccy from the landowner behind me ,and am fully paid up incidentaly .
i do have a letter my solicitor got to say he will supply at domestic rates ,so thats ok ,just like to avoid the law approach it takes a long time etc .
swapping over meters seems such obvious common sense !

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On 4th Mar, 2009 robert said:

swapping over meters seems such obvious common sense !


I see where you're coming from, but swapping meters doesn't stop the power being routed through cabling and switchgear owned by someone else, with no obligation to maintain it, keep it safe, etc.

I suspect that is why SEB just say run a new cable of their own.

H&S is out of hand at the moment.

EDIT - typo

Edited by Rod S on 4th Mar, 2009.

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