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this is floating around on my other club site so i thougt id post it here... dont know the truths or not but a good read


The reason hemp is illegal

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On 22nd Apr, 2009 weed website said:
pot is not harmful to the human body or mind


I stopped reading there.


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As far as the History goes -

They might as well have started the article :-

Marijuana was brought to earth by an advanced race of Aliens .....

about as much reality as what is written


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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


any one that says pot is harmless dosent know shit. largly peple use it with no major or long lasting effects and i have known many people to do so, how ever i have known many people to become paranoid, delusional, and on occasion take on a permanant change of personality.

pot is a very unpredictable drug, it contains 2 main active parts thd, (which is much lamented for being a wonderful drug) and ghd (IIRC) which is a powerful psycoactive agent,

its all hunkey dory when you get a joint full of thd, or mostly thd but if you get one full of ghd this is what can screw you up (much in the same way as too much acid), and from my readings it seems very variable from batch to batch, even from plant to plant.


sumary....

Drugs are bad M'kay!

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i dont have a clue tbh i thought pot and Marijuana was 2 different leaves or herbs or whatever lol its probably one of them things that tell just enough truths to make all the lies seem plausible, it had my sis agreeing on stuff and trust me she has experiance in these fields im sure of it lmao *happy*

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people that want to believe it will....


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0qJcGhmvqc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR4aQoezl-U&feature=related

Edited by supermotolee on 23rd Apr, 2009.

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What a load of shit. Hemp dissapeared because cheaper and better alternatives were developed; they weren't developed to destroy the Hemp industry. You can still buy Hemp anyway, if it was any good we'd all be wearing it.

And there may well be some medical benefits to pot. But I wouldn't take asprin if it could induce a psycotic episode. My missus has to deal with the fall out of this every day.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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That is quite funny really. Clearly delusional, probably smokes too much. It seems to confuse hemp with pot quite a lot. If you tries to smoke the hemp plant that is used for materials and the like you will need a spliff the size of Big Ben.

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That linked article is just as fact-free as most of the posts in this thread. He is a crazy, conspiracy theory loving, uneducated hippie. A few of you guys sound like you got all your info from outdated anti-drug propaganda films in school or from whisper down the lane story telling.

Marijuana is not 2 different leaves or herbs. Marijuana is the plant known as cannabis sativa.

THD and GHD? Nope. The active ingredient in pot is THC (the one that makes a person high). There is also a small amount of a chemical known as CBD (an antipsychoactive chemical).

THC is quite variable in it's effects. It can calm some people, give a sense of euphoria in some, dull pain in others, and can make some folks mildly paranoid or anxious. That is mainly why this chemical is not exploited on a large scale by drug manufacturers. Manufacturers want a chemical that is predictable in it's effect, at a given dose. I know, I work in the industry.

Marijuana does not induce psychotic episodes. By 'psychotic episode' I mean, the loss of contact with reality and inability to think rationally. In fact your 'rationality' is not greatly affected by the use of marijuana. It mostly affects your short term memory, your concept of time, and the way you convey your emotions (makes you giggly). Overdose on marijuana and you will fall asleep.

Aspirin has a number of side effects that are much more severe than marijuana. It is known to cause stomach ulcers, bloody stool, vomiting, and nausea. Overdose on aspirin and you can die.

Marijuana and hemp are two different plants. They are closely related but are not the same. Hemp is high in the CBD chemical (the one that does NOT make you high) and very low in THC.

Modern medical research is showing that marijuana is less of a health risk than alcohol when used in moderation (and when ingested and not smoked). Remember, the addiction to alcohol occurs on a mental and a physical level. Addiction to marijuana exists on a mental level only. Neither is healthy for you....but regardless, you still drink beer at night and take aspirin in the morning to kill that hangover headache, right?

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Edited by Lance Link on 23rd Apr, 2009.

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To quote one of my favourite songs:

marijuana
Why is marijuana not legal?
It’s a natural plant that grows in the dirt.
Do you know what’s not natural?
80 year old dudes with hard-ons. That’s not natural.
But we got pills for that.
We’re dedicating all our medical resources to keeping the old guys erect,
but we’re putting people in jail for smoking something that grows in the dirt?

Lazy boy - underwear goes inside the pants.

i have never smoked any drugs, yet went to college with 20 odd kids that did. As a result i learn the smell of all the different types of drugs (which is hand when walking through town lol)

I also saw the effects it had on people, they don't reaslise it but they become completely differnt people when under the influence.

For me i don't do it nor like it, but is also doesn't bother me, should it be legal? who knows, i just know there are more imortant things to worry about then a kid with a spliff

Edited by Mini_Andy on 23rd Apr, 2009.


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It can induce psycotic episodes, by this I mean seriouse long term mental health problems. My missus is a consultant Psychiartrist and regularly sees such cases. See here http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinfo/...s/cannabis.aspx

I agree all drugs do of course have potential side effects. But you balance the risks against the benefits.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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Lance is spot on here!

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On 23rd Apr, 2009 wil_h said:
It can induce psycotic episodes, by this I mean seriouse long term mental health problems. My missus is a consultant Psychiartrist and regularly sees such cases. See here http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinfo/...s/cannabis.aspx

I agree all drugs do of course have potential side effects. But you balance the risks against the benefits.


Your misses expertise and education does not, by the associative property, make you an expert also. haha... j/k *tongue*

Your wife has a tough job. There are no hard and fast tests to diagnose many of the disorders she deals with on a daily basis.

I work in the world where I need to understand how medication and disease physically/chemically interact with the body. This allows me to help get new drugs on the market and to assure the long term safety of those drugs once on the market.

Here is what that site you liked to says;


"Mental health problems

There is growing evidence that people with serious mental illness, including depression and psychosis, are more likely to use cannabis or have used it for long periods of time in the past. Regular use of the drug has appeared to double the risk of developing a psychotic episode or long-term schizophrenia. However, does cannabis cause depression and schizophrenia or do people with these disorders use it as a medication? Over the past few years, research has strongly suggested that there is a clear link between early cannabis use and later mental health problems in those with a genetic vulnerability - and that there is a particular issue with the use of cannabis by adolescents."


So, what this text says, is that you have a VERY slightly higher chance of developing a mental health disorder if you smoke marijuana as a kid AND you have a genetic predisposition to getting that particular mental illness. That same site outlines that 1% of the worlds population has schizophrenia. So you, at baseline, already have a 1% chance of having this disorder. If this site is to be believed, you might now have a 2% chance of getting this mental disorder if you 'regularly' smoked marijuana as an adolescent and you are genetically predisposed to getting it. If your parents aren't schizophrenic and you have no family with schizophrenia, you are likely not predisposed genetically to get this illness.

This term 'regularly' is not defined on the site. It could mean that the user smokes a joint every weekend, or that they are high all day every day. And as I am sure you understand, the difference in those two usage levels would effect the body quite differently.

You are right, everything you do in life comes down to a cost benefit analysis. Most people will still drive home after having a drink at the bar even though their chances of dying on the ride home have increased by ten fold. But people are still doing it because having a drink with friends is fun and the benefit of -fun- outweighs the risk of being killed on the ride home. I personally feel the same about marijuana. It's potential benefits (health or otherwise) outweigh the risks for many people.


Edited by Lance Link on 23rd Apr, 2009.

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schizophrenia is fortunately very rare. My missus likens diagnosing peole with it to telling some one they have terminal cancer. Other less serious mental health issues such as depression (and I mean affects your life illness) can also be induced at a much higher rate accordng to that article.

Of course I don't work in the health business and all my knowledge is gained from speaking to my wife.

I don't like the idea of using drugs for the purpose of stimulation, but then I drink alcahol, so it shits on my argument!

Percieved risk is a wonderful thing. People shit themselves on roller coasters, but have infinately more chance of injuring themselves driving to the theme park.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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I've been to amsterdam resecently. I had a little smoke, and by little I mean a few drags. It was all a bit weird. Probably my second or third try in nearly 30 years. I just felt more drunk (had been drinking for around 4 hours before hand). Quite a woosey feeling.

I found myself having strange/weird/bad dreams most nights for a week or so after. Completly out of character for me. Even our lass made the connection. I was also horny as hell for a week when I got back, but that could just have been the whole amsterdam experience...

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Any drug taken to excess will do you harm, Asprin, paracetamol, sleeping pils. Dose of reality please, if some doctors believe it can be used to ease the symptoms then why the fuss? Money and tax thats the bottom line!

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excess in moderation

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i've known probably a dozen people who have smoked the herb all day, evry day for many years and with no long term problems. but i also know one person who it has changed perminantly and paranoid is only one way to describe it. he nolonger smokes but it still affects him, he wont go out, wont talk to people, thinks everyone is out to get him, thinks everyone is spying on him (even though he does nothing) takes every thing you say in the most negative way posible, its such a shame.


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On the Marijuana (Sativa or Indica)debate. I think you have to way up the risks. What Lance says is spot on about the risks. 1% to 2% is a 100% increase and its reported like this. It's not risk free. I've known people who have smoked it for years with no apparent problem. One girl didn't get on with it and she was paranoid but was of a jumpy nature anyway, she was fine when not smoking.

In terms of social and economic damage Marijuana pales against the huge amount of damage resulting from tobacco and alcohol. You dont find your local A & E overflowing with pot heads every friday / saturday night.

It's only the female flowers that are smoked not the whole plant.


Hemp (fibre and seeds etc) as a material really is a wonder crop.

I'm sure the fibre is the strongest natural fibre known.

Check out the Wiki entry for what its good for. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp

Good food source to

http://www.manitobaharvest.com/nutrition/i....asp?itemID=172

"Almost two-thirds of hemp protein is made up of edestin, a globulin protein found only in hemp seeds. This makes hemp the superior source for this protein in the plant kingdom. Edestin is a type of plant protein that is similar to protein found in the human body, and thus is perfectly suited to aid in meeting the body’s cellular needs such as DNA repair. Since much of hemp’s protein resembles that found in human blood, hemp protein is very easily digested and assimilated. In addition, another one-third of hemp’s protein is albumin, another high quality globulin protein also found in egg whites."

Amazing what you can google!

Edited by Mirage on 1st May, 2009.

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