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 2924 Posts Member #: 95 Post Whore liverpool-on-sea |
3rd May, 2009 at 05:59:38pm
ok as most of you know i run a toyota starlet turbo engine in my mini.
no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.
On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl. |
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 1424 Posts Member #: 2810 Formally spanner181187 Dublin, Ireland |
3rd May, 2009 at 06:08:37pm
Do you know where the difference in CR is made? i.e. head, block, pistons On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:
I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse  On 30th Apr, 2010 Rod S said:
Gary's description is best |
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2924 Posts Member #: 95 Post Whore liverpool-on-sea |
3rd May, 2009 at 06:14:38pm
On 3rd May, 2009 GaryOS said:
Do you know where the difference in CR is made? i.e. head, block, pistons yes the only difference is the pistons. the turbo ones are flat and the n/a ones have a bulge on them. i could fit turbo pistons to the n/a engine but i dont have time to mess around to much at moment. no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.
On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl. |
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 3692 Posts Member #: 1833 Formally mini_majic Auckland, New Zealand |
3rd May, 2009 at 06:16:41pm
i think if your sensible with the boost you should get away with it.
Edited by James_H on 3rd May, 2009. |
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 4890 Posts Member #: 1775 Post Whore Chester |
3rd May, 2009 at 06:23:32pm
Can you not swap the pistons? putting yours into the new engine? I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
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4890 Posts Member #: 1775 Post Whore Chester |
3rd May, 2009 at 06:26:20pm
opps just seen your reply, posts from PaulS show the heat is a big problem..
I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
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1424 Posts Member #: 2810 Formally spanner181187 Dublin, Ireland |
3rd May, 2009 at 06:27:39pm
To be honest, I would just get the crank reground (if that is what the problem is) if you don't have time to swap parts. How easy are bearings to get hold off? A crank regrind with bearings will cost about the same as the NA engine and you know the history of the engine you have now. On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:
I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse On 30th Apr, 2010 Rod S said:
Gary's description is best |
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 1346 Posts Member #: 2340 Post Whore Dublin Ireland |
3rd May, 2009 at 06:34:12pm
What he^ just said buying another engine could last a day or a year there is no telling On 17th Feb, 2009 Rob H said:
I find the easiest way is to super glue the bolt to the end of one of my fingers. ______________________________________________________ |
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2924 Posts Member #: 95 Post Whore liverpool-on-sea |
3rd May, 2009 at 06:35:17pm
crank regrind and new bearings isnt a problem, suppose im just being lazy tho, lol.
no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.
On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl. |
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 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
3rd May, 2009 at 06:42:07pm
The biggest problem maybe the ECU running ignition timing with too much advance for the NA engine.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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 261 Posts Member #: 713 Senior Member Western Australia |
4th May, 2009 at 04:31:27am
Don't waste your money on the NA engine. Big ends are a common problem especially if the engine has been sitting around for a while. Cheap enough to fix. Parts are easy to get here, not sure in the UK though. On 24th Dec, 2008 Nic said:
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2924 Posts Member #: 95 Post Whore liverpool-on-sea |
4th May, 2009 at 10:30:05am
On 4th May, 2009 AWDmoke said:
Don't waste your money on the NA engine. Big ends are a common problem especially if the engine has been sitting around for a while. Cheap enough to fix. Parts are easy to get here, not sure in the UK though. parts are easy enough to get going in garage sooon so will report findings no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.
On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl. |
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 9327 Posts Member #: 59 First mini turbo to get in the 12's & site perv Herefordshire |
4th May, 2009 at 02:07:00pm
You can do this easily Carl!!
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2924 Posts Member #: 95 Post Whore liverpool-on-sea |
4th May, 2009 at 06:41:03pm
number 1 big end bearing had been spinning.
no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.
On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl. |
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Site Admin  15302 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
4th May, 2009 at 06:57:20pm
My local machine shop will reclaim rods, may be worth looking into Carl.
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 2909 Posts Member #: 83 Post Whore Glasgow, Scotland |
4th May, 2009 at 09:43:26pm
On 4th May, 2009 Carl said:
number 1 big end bearing had been spinning. will need minimum crank grind (if grindable) new bearings and new con rod. but as im not sure what caused it (i suspect a con rod problem) and i can get a second hand engine for £400 i think ill go down this route for now because i need the cheapest and quickest option. could you not get an NA bottom end, and swap pistons across? (assuming the difference is in the pistons?) incidently, 9.6:1 is fine for boost if the fueling and timing is ok, provided the pistons are strong enough. and if you get a second hand engine, atleast treat it to some new bearings before fitting  if these engines have a trait of running them.
turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)
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2924 Posts Member #: 95 Post Whore liverpool-on-sea |
4th May, 2009 at 10:31:37pm
On 4th May, 2009 evolotion said: On 4th May, 2009 Carl said:
could you not get an NA bottom end, and swap pistons across? (assuming the difference is in the pistons?) . this is what i did last time and something has gone wrong. lol the crank, bore and stroke are the same. the blocks are almost the same but do have some very minor differences. i converted a n/a block to turbo. the oil pumps are different and not interchangable so i had to go with the n/a one. the crank was definately good and from memory i think there were only one size of big end bearing avalable from toyota so that would have been right (will check tomorrow) the only other thing i can think of could be lack of oil or faulty con rod (were second hand) i think im gonna fit second hand engine and see how i go, the breakersyard says hell give me 3 mths warrenty Athough thatll probably mean fook all tbh lol no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.
On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
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2909 Posts Member #: 83 Post Whore Glasgow, Scotland |
4th May, 2009 at 10:36:31pm
Fair enough mate, id be lying if i said i knew alot about these lumps :) still, you could atleast split and inspect the "new" engine :) only cost you some selant for the sump and your time turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)
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