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Edited by theoneeyedlizard on 8th May, 2009.

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It looks like its got fooking hot! *surprised*

Can't really see much because of the black dust? The scoring doesn't look to bad from what I can see, so should be possible to machine flat again I would of thought.

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clearly this has been slipping very badly and has fired the plate,spliiage is more than likely due to origional dimensions not being restored,

the flywheel will need a grind as those hot spots will almost certainly not machine out on a lathe, probably same goes for the backplate,

whoever machined it for you soes not understand whats needed when doing the job,simple as that,

carl

i think ive spotted the oversight on the machininst part, i may be wrong

Edited by fastcarl on 8th May, 2009.

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Did the clutch slip?

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On 8th May, 2009 MikeRace said:
Did the clutch slip?


of course it fooking slipped ,look at it, its fried the plate,lol,

come on Mike keep up!!!!

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im not too convinced it did slip...

i think the HG went...


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Its hard to tell form the photos but it doesn't look like the three towers have been machined to correct/set the clamping force ???

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On 8th May, 2009 fastcarl said:
clearly this has been slipping very badly and has fired the plate,spliiage is more than likely due to origional dimensions not being restored,



I just hate when spliiage occurs!

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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look at the right hand lobe,?? Machining Marks?

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On 8th May, 2009 MikeRace said:
look at the right hand lobe,?? Machining Marks?


Possibly original machining....

Look at the second photo which shows just one tower close-up and you can't see any marks.

That's the trouble with internet diagnosis - if you had it in your hand it would be easy :)

EDIT - it's the top one in the first photo - I wonder if they are not machined equally or, the lack of load marks on the top tower (1st photo), maybe the bolt shouldered out without clamping up properly ???

Edited by Rod S on 8th May, 2009.

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On 8th May, 2009 Rod S said:
On 8th May, 2009 MikeRace said:
look at the right hand lobe,?? Machining Marks?


Possibly original machining....

Look at the second photo which shows just one tower close-up and you can't see any marks.

That's the trouble with internet diagnosis - if you had it in your hand it would be easy :)

EDIT - it's the top one in the first photo - I wonder if they are not machined equally or, the lack of load marks on the top tower (1st photo), maybe the bolt shouldered out without clamping up properly ???


thats what i think may have happend, they have reset the heights but not sunk the counter bore further therefore bolts bottoming out before clamping up fully,


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There is also no chamfers on the holes in the lugs which would suggest they have been machined down but not re-drilled/counter bored.

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Oh hell yeah it slipped. Couldn't get over 30 mph without it slipping. Limped it to work and back and stripped it today. The dimensions on the posts are correct and the diaphragm spring lays flat but the quality of machining is SHITE.

I should know better than to trust peoples machining but when its from a reputable company and you pay top dollar you expect professional quality.

Oh well live and learn!!


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On 8th May, 2009 joeybaby83 said:
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Nah! TBH this was a 2nd hand unit from a metro challenge car, used with a paddle clutch. When i think back now it was fucked before it was sold to me (by same reputable company).
Full of score marks and had been over heating, that why it was remachined............badly.


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The quality of machining wouldn't cause it to slip if the tower/post/lug height is correct and hence the spring flat....

Poor surface finish might just make the driven plate wear a little faster.

If it is the counterbores (lack of) causing the bolts to shoulder out, how have you seen the spring flat ??? Did you trial assemble it with different bolts when you checked the spring flatness ???

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Did you drop a 10mm spanner down there?


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On 8th May, 2009 Rod S said:
If it is the counterbores (lack of) causing the bolts to shoulder out, how have you seen the spring flat ??? Did you trial assemble it with different bolts when you checked the spring flatness ???


I trial assembled if using the same bolts as the final assembly. When i checked the post heights with the gauge i found a 15 thou difference across the 3. If the pressure plate wasn't running true the plate would only drive on a portion of the surface.

LMAO @ NIC! couldn't see one mate!


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On 8th May, 2009 Nic said:
Did you drop a 10mm spanner down there?


Have you been using a 10mm spanner on 3/8" bolts again Nic?

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On 8th May, 2009 1380turbo said:



On 8th May, 2009 Rod S said:
If it is the counterbores (lack of) causing the bolts to shoulder out, how have you seen the spring flat ??? Did you trial assemble it with different bolts when you checked the spring flatness ???


I trial assembled if using the same bolts as the final assembly. When i checked the post heights with the gauge i found a 15 thou difference across the 3. If the pressure plate wasn't running true the plate would only drive on a portion of the surface.

LMAO @ NIC! couldn't see one mate!


what hights have you got for the bsackplate and the thickness for the flywheel

the different hights on the backplate would make it judder on takeup but it wpould still sit flat once engaged.it may have more pressure at one point but still not the cause.


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On 8th May, 2009 fastcarl said:


the different hights on the backplate would make it judder on takeup but it wpould still sit flat once engaged.it may have more pressure at one point but still not the cause.


carl


Initially I thought the same, but..... if it's a very stiff spring, bearing in mind these are simple belville washers - just on a large scale - would the limited pressure at the "other" points allow the slip ???

15 thou doesn't sound a lot, but the movements and compression on these pre-Verto springs isn't a lot.

Just thinking aloud at the moment.....

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On 8th May, 2009 Nic said:
Did you drop a 10mm spanner down there?


LMAO *hehe!* it was an 8mm! *wink*

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Had you got the slave cylinder/arm/stops adjusted correctly to let the thrust bearing actually fully release the clutch?

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