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Here are a few pics of one of the 80's Group A works Metros. These picutres along with loads of other were recently mailed to me.

I love the way Rover has used so many of their own products like ignition module, rad fan, pedal box etc, unlike todays touring cars where every thing is billet ally and carbon fibre, it even has a 20 quid mountny steering wheel.

Along with the pics are hand written set up papers from 1984 for Tim Harvey and Robin Brundle (Martin's brother) with boost pressures, suspension geometry and alsorts.

Looks like some kind of dry sump is going on and the oil cooler if FECKING HUGE in the boot area, bigger than a metro rad.

I always guessed the intercooler would be a Montego/Maestro turbo item but the pic cleary shows it is something else with proper ends caps, the rad has been shortened to fit it in.

Obviously these engines spent alot of time on a dyno, alot of effort has gone into the exhaust proving big is best.

They also do not used a standard plenum, more like a pipe straight into the carb mouth.






Hope you enjoy the pics.

JF.

Edited by giallofly on 23rd May, 2009.

dry sumped

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Anymore to share?

Edited by Nic on 23rd May, 2009.

Yes Nic, on my GF's coal fired PC and those ones took an hour to upload.

Will do once my LT is back up and running.

JF.

Thanks for sharing JF. :)

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Cool, I look forward to seeing them, I love old racing cars, they inspire me as 25 years on we can look at them thinking that we could make something simiar

Is that exhaust oval?

The down pipe is round, maybe 3 inch then just after the gear change jobby it goes into a huge oval yes..

JF.

very interesting ,thank you .

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM

how on earth does the gearbox survive in a dry sump? very intresting pics though, cant wait to see more!

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

Denis O'Brien.

Just noticed on the IC it has a Turbo Technics lable so must be a special of theirs.

JF.

Thanks for sharing.

I and am sure mose others carnt wait for more.

Rick

Tbh, Im trying to figure out that dry sump thing, and cant for the life of me work it out either. How is the gearbox kept in working order?

keen to see more pictures.

Greg.

great post!!

this really is interesting, disk rear brakes too!

Cheers JF :)

Well obviously it did work, if enough oil is squirted into the right places it will have enough lube, they did used to win races!

Who can remember Marc de la matier's (something like that) in the mid nineties, that was dry sumpped and was a regular magazine car ans was succesfull in circuit racing.

Remember it is only a film of oil that needed to lube and with the backing of a massive motor company a new gearbox every few races is no big deal.

JF.

Edited by giallofly on 23rd May, 2009.

Top pics Jon!

cool - are those recent pics of the car?

If Carling made Mini engines
it would probably be like this one!

They were taken in 2005 at an auction I do believe..

It is pics of 2 cars, one is mint, the other looks "used"

The front suspension is very confusing with the ARB set up and it is on coil overs/trakspax all round.

Notice the works teams did'nt waste cash on ARP head bolts, always said new gen ones with the Y are good enough for the job.

JF.

Just imagine getting this letter in 2009...



That is motoring history gents!

JF.

AWESOME!

Getting a letter basically saying "here, have a group A metro. Its free."

we can dream!

lucky bastards!

i saw an atricle in a mag a couple of years ago with one of the comptervision metros,

it was owned by a 16year old...

Don't see how you can dry sump an A-series, as the gearbox would need to hold oil. How would you pump it around the gearbox, and engine and the dry system?!?! That aeroquip into the gearbox I reckon is a return from a breather, Maybe I'm wrong. We need more pictures.

You be holding alot of oil for no gain!

Looks good though, Would love more pictures.

Lightweight racer coming soon.

they were deffo dry sumped,

from what i have read the layshaft was pressure fed, and the rest was taken care of by the oil flung from the crank.

I remember this i think it was in retro cars!