Fricken so called 'genuine' engine gasket sets!!!!!!!
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If the problems I have been having were not bad enough!!

I bought a suposedly 'genuine' engine gasket set from Minisport. Its in the exact same white box as the Minispares one, has the exact same gaskets in made from the exact same gasket materials.

Now you know the suspected reason for the bearing failure in my engine, the lack of oil pick up pipe O ring. Well, I am at the point of putting the box onto the engine, glued up all the mating faces, glued up the half moon seal, looks in the gasket box for the oil pick up pipe O ring, and can only find one O ring that might have half a chance of being the one Im after, its the right OD, but wait a minuet, its the wrong thickness

I search in my box of spares, as I know I ordered a one from Minispares seperately a while ago, and would you believe, its the fucken same!!!!!!!!!!!

The O ring kit I have doesnt have anything that will fit, and the O ring splice kit I have doesnt have the right diameter bead

So i am at a stop again, this time for the same fucken 50 pence O ring

What really takes the piss is that the cheapo gasket set you can buy at M&M's, not even close to being genuine, has the right size O ring. That means I have to buy a complete gasket set just for the O ring.

While Im here, has anyone else noticed how much thicker the engine/ box gaskets are compared to what used to be the VERY original gaskets. I had Idler gear rattle even though the idler was brand new, shimmed to the minimum clearance with new thust washers, primary gear shimmed to minimum clearance with new bushes, but it still rattled. I have never heard standard helical cut gears propperly shimmed rattle so much, its fucking anoying. With straight cut gears its something you just have to put up with.

I have thought for a long time that the clearance between the actual teeth is larger than it should be as a result of these thicker gaskets. Now to make a long story longer, as a result of having the main bearing housings line bored, the crank now sits 3 thou higher in the block. This would only add to the clearance of the primary to idler gear. I have said it in the past about just using RTV and no gasket, as long as the transfer gear teeth clearancies are reasonable. So I sat the engine on the box fitted the transfer gears, transfer housing and gasket, torqued everything up, and checked for binding. Everything turns nice and free, so I am going with out the gearbox to engine gaskets in an effort to reduce the transfer gear rattle.

So, as it stands, the 'genuine' gasket sets have a transfer case gasket that is thicker, engine to gearbox gaskets that are thicker and an oil pick up pipe O ring that is thinner.

Its not rocket science is it

Rant over, but im still pissed!!!!!!

Man, i feel your pain!

i have started ordering gaskets (and seals) individually, mini spares for one does some gaskets that appear to be uprated, like the filter housing and diff flange gaskets with impregnated "goo" pockets. also buying them individualy can work out cheaper, plus it pisses the staff of lol.

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

Cant you just buy from any Payen stockist, or dont they supply anymore ?

9.85 @ 145mph
202mph standing mile
speed didn't kill me, but taxation probably will

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/searchB...oduct&R=0129123

I might buy these

Anyone need some O rings

you've only gotta mess it up another 49 times colin

Sorry mate but I'll only be doing that the once

Surely you've got a spare one left over somewhere.............

sorry

Ok mate made me laugh :)

Just thought though

shit head gaskets, shit gasket sets, shit head studs, shit lay shafts, shit rubber parts, shit wheel bearings.

Any more of this shit and i'm throwing in the towel.

We should all convert to the k series

myth

could well be

you trying to tell us something

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1/4mile in 13.2sec @ 111 terminal on 15psi

maybe

Mine is holding together fine so far

Who manufactures an engine where the head bolts hold the sump on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os3b6hVOrFg

Sproket,

if anyone has the dimensions for this seal I will look through our seal kits and stick one in the post with extreme haste!

Or are the dimensios 3/4" x 1" by 1/8" the figures Irequire? As in the link.

Edited by Mr Joshua on 9th Jun, 2009.

Own the day

Edited by Sprocket on 9th Jun, 2009.

Polymax is who I used to buy the O rings to build my injection manifold - strangley I nearly bought a bag of these (g'box to block) to make up the minimum order value, but opted instead for a bag of the size that goes at the base of a dizzy drive (another one never in the kits) as I didn't have a spare for my phase sensor.

So I now have a bag of 19 spare that fits the bottom of a dizzy !!!

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

Checked and we have stock but all's well in the end.

Own the day

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

Denis O'Brien.