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ERA ANT

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Is it possible to fit anti lag to a mini or a metro turbo? Obviously it is going to need to be running injection for a start but if it was running injection would it be possible to run it on the a-series?

Do it right the first time and make it mint!!!!!!


Joe C

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the easiest way to achive this is with nitrous,

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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Ben H

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Do a search this has been covered many times before.

IMO if you need anti-lag you are seriously pushing the limits in a race car, or you have the wrong turbo fitted.

http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
http://www.hillclimbandsprint.co.uk/default.asp

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or your barry as fook

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On 18th Aug, 2009 joeybaby83 said:
or your barry as fook


*happy**happy**happy*

doesnt need fuel injection though.... so there is your head start 8-)

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On 18th Aug, 2009 joeybaby83 said:
or your barry as fook


In which case you are better off with an anti-slag device.

http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
http://www.hillclimbandsprint.co.uk/default.asp

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i run it/need it. a simple 2-step rev limiter will work as anti-lag even with a carb. Even though its barry as fook, it is amusing watching people jump ou there skins when you turn it on.

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

Denis O'Brien.


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Simple solution,remove t3, place in bin, fit gt17

1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.


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On 19th Aug, 2009 evolotion said:
i run it/need it. a simple 2-step rev limiter will work as anti-lag even with a carb. Even though its barry as fook, it is amusing watching people jump ou there skins when you turn it on.



thats pretty much on how i was planning doing it on mine but using the switchable map feature on my jolt. set 2nd map with a hard cut at something like 4.5k which is switched from a brake switch on the clutch pedal hopefully enabling flat shifting witha crude anti-lag.

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Well here is the news, you are not welcome here, FUCK OFF.


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On 19th Aug, 2009 Nick said:



On 19th Aug, 2009 evolotion said:
i run it/need it. a simple 2-step rev limiter will work as anti-lag even with a carb. Even though its barry as fook, it is amusing watching people jump ou there skins when you turn it on.



thats pretty much on how i was planning doing it on mine but using the switchable map feature on my jolt. set 2nd map with a hard cut at something like 4.5k which is switched from a brake switch on the clutch pedal hopefully enabling flat shifting witha crude anti-lag.


can mjlj switch between the two maps whilst is in action? whilst i was building mine i was thinking about it.... im unsure *oh well*

Yes i moved to the darkside *happy*

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Mikerace was running like that at MITP. Not sure how well it went...

On 19th Aug, 2009 Brett said:

can mjlj switch between the two maps whilst is in action? whilst i was building mine i was thinking about it.... im unsure *oh well*

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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On 19th Aug, 2009 evolotion said:
i run it/need it. a simple 2-step rev limiter will work as anti-lag even with a carb. Even though its barry as fook, it is amusing watching people jump ou there skins when you turn it on.


Even though your bottom end only costs 50p I would put you in the serious power race car anti lag category.

http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
http://www.hillclimbandsprint.co.uk/default.asp

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Yes the MJ can change maps in action, i was using it off the line at MITP

1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.


Fibreglass Parts? - http://www.tdkracing.co.uk/
Split Rims? - http://www.force-racing.co.uk/


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On 19th Aug, 2009 MikeRace said:
Yes the MJ can change maps in action, i was using it off the line at MITP

cool cool8-)

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On 19th Aug, 2009 Nick said:



On 19th Aug, 2009 evolotion said:
i run it/need it. a simple 2-step rev limiter will work as anti-lag even with a carb. Even though its barry as fook, it is amusing watching people jump ou there skins when you turn it on.



thats pretty much on how i was planning doing it on mine but using the switchable map feature on my jolt. set 2nd map with a hard cut at something like 4.5k which is switched from a brake switch on the clutch pedal hopefully enabling flat shifting witha crude anti-lag.


positioning of the clutch swithc is absolutely cruicial, too high and you light up the tyres and hit the lower limit once you have traction in first before your foots even off the clutch too low and you bogg down. all said and done, its absolutely useless on normal tyres lol even the flat shift is too much, you need the slow build of boost to keep traction :) still i love the noise :$

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

Denis O'Brien.


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this sounds interesting.....

am I right in thinking that the switchable maps function of the MJ can be used as a simple for of launch control/flat shift by wiring in a clutch switch?

Would you need the hard cut limiter addition to the MJ? or can it be done by just setting all values to 0 above your chosen launch RPM?

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ARGH! evil work computer with the double post again.....

Edited by Prawn on 20th Aug, 2009.

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Does Megajolt not have a dedicated Launch control configuration?

Megasquirt, Vems and many of the big name ECUs have dedicated Launch control, shift cut and ALS configurations.

TBH I would probably buy one of those even If i were just using it for ignition.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


Anton

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Nope no dedicated launch control on the mjlj... just the switchable maps feature


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0 degrees advance wont hold the engine back enough, you need full controll over your spark(i.e. spark cut) to pass unburn ait/fuel to the exhaust manifold. even at -10 degrees advance my engines rpm still rises reasonably briskly.

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

Denis O'Brien.


ERA ANT

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"i run it/need it. a simple 2-step rev limiter will work as anti-lag even with a carb. Even though its barry as fook, it is amusing watching people jump ou there skins when you turn it on"


this sounds intresting and cheaper than an omex or emerald system. does it actually work then?

Edited by ERA ANT on 20th Aug, 2009.

Do it right the first time and make it mint!!!!!!


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i run megasquirt with anti-lag, and yes, or i wouldnt use it. can hold ~12psi sitting on the start line. sometimes more sometimes less, very dependant on oil temp and a few other things.

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

Denis O'Brien.


Nic

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I appear to have an anti shag device fitted

Its working really well...........unfortunately


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Thats purely beacuse you need to be at clubs during the week Nic! Honestly the ratios are amazing! Put yourself about more and your success rate drops but your "numbers" rise! Its genius i tell the!!!!


EDIT: Jesus?! i was giving advice on this and im on TM at 4 in the morning?! Loser.

No morals or standards helps alot aswell *happy*

Edited by James_H on 21st Aug, 2009.


Anton

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Mine is the same, the softcut reduced power but didn't stop it reving. Looking at a hard cut for my next project


On 20th Aug, 2009 evolotion said:
0 degrees advance wont hold the engine back enough, you need full controll over your spark(i.e. spark cut) to pass unburn ait/fuel to the exhaust manifold. even at -10 degrees advance my engines rpm still rises reasonably briskly.

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