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How do you low boys stop the rear suspention from falling apart when you jack up the car?

I already have spax 'lower' dampers, but the car is not as low as I want yet, and the rear suspension is starting to fall apart when it is jacked up

The fronts I have sorted with the 'lowered' dampers and the 'lowered' top brackets

I hope to fit the red spot rubbers which I believe are a slightly different shape, will this help with keeping it all together?

Suggestions on dampers too. Im not happy with the Spastix I have, the dificulty adjusting them meant I don't, and when I have come to adjust them, rust has set in. Im not after anything flash or special, just a decent off the shelf damper with a finger adjustment, that wont break the bank.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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the trick I use Sprox is to put a few coils of an oil presure spring in where the hi-lo meets the cone adjuster

On 17th Feb, 2009 Rob H said:

I find the easiest way is to super glue the bolt to the end of one of my fingers.

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Im sure some sort of cable tie arrangement would fix things


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On 31st Aug, 2009 PaulH said:
the trick I use Sprox is to put a few coils of an oil presure spring in where the hi-lo meets the cone adjuster


Clever :)

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 31st Aug, 2009 richminiturbo. said:
Im sure some sort of cable tie arrangement would fix things


Im after something a little more permenant*oh well*

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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Leather straps from the subframe to the radius arms?

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a breif struggle ensued but Will emerged the victor with a pair of undies in his possesion


On 21st Sep, 2009 apbellamy said:
No, but you did chuck your guts up over my front gate the Saturday before! You even managed to get a bit in your arm pit...


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Coil overs?


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Which cones have you got?

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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anti droop bolt, going through the heal board and through the subframe and hits the radius arm behind where the knuckle joint sits

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On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:

I think the welsh one has it right!


1st to provide running proof
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On 1st Sep, 2009 Jimster said:
anti droop bolt, going through the heal board and through the subframe and hits the radius arm behind where the knuckle joint sits


Is this just an idea or is this how the racers do it:)

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 1st Sep, 2009 Vegard said:
Which cones have you got?


Hilo with the standard rubbers

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 1st Sep, 2009 Sprocket said:



On 1st Sep, 2009 Vegard said:
Which cones have you got?


Hilo with the standard rubbers


New rubbers, old rubbers?

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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On 1st Sep, 2009 Jimster said:
anti droop bolt, going through the heal board and through the subframe and hits the radius arm behind where the knuckle joint sits


no, this is how the miglia's are done

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On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:

I think the welsh one has it right!


1st to provide running proof
of turbo twinkie in a car and first to
run a 1/4 in one!!

Is your data backed up?? one extra month free for all Turbo minis members, PM me for detials


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On 1st Sep, 2009 Vegard said:



On 1st Sep, 2009 Sprocket said:



On 1st Sep, 2009 Vegard said:
Which cones have you got?


Hilo with the standard rubbers


New rubbers, old rubbers?


the rear are still the original rubbers, but are in very good condition with about 1/4" shorter than a brand new un settled rubber.


The old front rubbers were deffo shot as they were considerably shorter than the old rears, and the old rears were not that much different from the new fronts, remembering that the new fronts still need settling.

I think i'll be buying some red spots.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 1st Sep, 2009 Jimster said:



On 1st Sep, 2009 Jimster said:
anti droop bolt, going through the heal board and through the subframe and hits the radius arm behind where the knuckle joint sits


no, this is how the miglia's are done


Yeh mate, thats what I was getting at, so its a solution, cool, i'll have a look at that, but im not drilling holes in the heal board. I'm thinking maybe a nylon block on the subframe just behind the knuckle seat. The only thing is that there is a lot of leverage at that point. I'll need to look at it a bit more.

Thanks mate, train of thought started:)

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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Will a nylon block not be a pain if you need to drop the arm further in the future though? With Jim's method you just wind the bolt out of the way.

Another way may be plate coming off the bottom of the subframe and under the arm. Maybe with a bolt to provide adjustment of how much droop is allowed or a bumpstop fastened to it or something?


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not sure how mines done but i'll take some pics of it when i take it to bits!

i know i can jack it up and something must be holding it up as my suspension doesnt fall to bits!


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train of thought :)

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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I use the GAZ lowered dampers, and this is not a problem with Hi-Los and a medium lowered car. However, my car is a slow as it's practical.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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On 1st Sep, 2009 iain said:
not sure how mines done but i'll take some pics of it when i take it to bits!

i know i can jack it up and something must be holding it up as my suspension doesnt fall to bits!


Great minds *happy*

Just had a fumble under our Mig. Nothing holding the arm up other than very short Trax Spax shock absorbers.

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its clear the your shocks arent that short,
just strap the rad arm the the subby,
how many times a week are you jacking up colin?

On 2nd Oct, 2009 Vegard said:


On 1st Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
I bet my first wank came quicker than your first mini turbo


These new modern turbos with their quick spool up time, would make the competition harder.


On 15th Aug, 2011 robert said:
phew!!! thank you brett for smashing in my back doors .( not something i imagined writing... EVER)


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On 1st Sep, 2009 rubicon said:
its clear the your shocks arent that short,
just strap the rad arm the the subby,
how many times a week are you jacking up colin?


Not that much, but, I had the car off the ground on the road not so long ago *hehe!*

Then there is the MOT, not good if it falls apart when they jack it up to check everything is tight *hehe!*

Im not keen on any sort of usage of a strap. I had thought about this, but then what happens to the strap when its not taut? I'm liking the droop stop idea Jimster and GreameC are talking about.

This isn't a new problem, there must be a decent way in which this is resolved. I had a look on Minispares, and they have a document which lists the damper open lengths, though I think its a little out of date now. But its clear that there really isnt much in it between standard and 'lowered' lengths.

I could well have been sold the standard length dampes, but the box deffo said they were for lowered cars, thats not to say they were in the wrong box, and to be honest, I wouldnt put it past the person who sold them to me. Moss are not exactly the best when it comes to getting the simple things right.

Im such a fussy bastard*happy*

Edited by Sprocket on 1st Sep, 2009.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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ooh, just found this on minispares, which looks to be up to date

http://www.minispares.com/Articles.aspx?ty=ad&aid=282

and there lies the answer!!

The Spastix are 15" open length even on the lowered dampers!!! they are only 1/2" shorter FFS!! what use is that to anyone!!

New shocks it is *laughing*

been an interesting topic none the less :)

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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Looking at that itis only the Koni's that are actually 'short'.

But as mentioned above, the SpaxTrax may be worth investigating or possibly custom made Protech alloy ones?


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Traxspax wont be suitable for a road car and also i believe the hilo's have been machined down so they fit as the shocks are so short... i think that makes sense *oh well*

Edited by sturgeo on 1st Sep, 2009.

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