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Hi

I'm doing some reading about IMS and although i had a MJ on my previous mini i've stumbled across SC A-Series Storm Kit slightly more expensive than what you could get a MJ i.e

MJ (off the site inc hangers, cable and hard limiter) £121.80
MED Bracket and Pickup £60
MED Lightweight Pulley with Engine management pick up £73.40
EDIS/Coil £25 (ish)
Total £280.20

Now the SC Storm kit costs £345 and i think i still need a coil.

I'm just curious as to if there are any benefits to the Storm Kit for the extra £65 having not used one and what you people think generally is better.

Atm the MJ still seems like the better deal.....but there could be some hidden gems.

t

Do you have a link to the Storm kit ???

If it still needs a coil (as in a single coil) then surely it still needs the dizzy (rotor arm part) ???

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

hi

i meant coil pack (i think it requires one) although i believe it has the edis element of the 2 normally required Ford parts in the ecu box

http://www.specialist-components.co.uk/cnb...odCategoryID=35

link also :)

t

Edited by t@z on 30th Sep, 2009.

OK yes, from a quick read of the link, a coilpack driven direct from the ECU rather than through an EDIS unit.

Better than Megajolt (which still uses the EDIS module to drive the coilpack) but similar to Megasquirt which, if used for ignition only and built correctly, can also drive the coilpack directly without an EDIS module.

Lots of choices out there now.....

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

Does the Storm also need the additional MAP sensor?

If you are planning to use it with a turbo, I would say you do.

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

must admit hadnt thought about a MAP sensor just assumed it would come with one as i cant imagine many mini owners use TPS. pictures to small also to work out.

Rod does that mean that a direct driven coilpack is better than an edis one like the MJ?

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

Looks like you can buy a MAP sensor for it as an extra so it obviously has the capability to use one :)

I am assuming the "A series specific package" includes the A series coil and HT leads

wowweeee so that MAP sensor pushes it to 400+.

Although a bit dated i'm not sure i could justify spending that much money on it especially when i had to play around so much with me SC trigger wheel and pick up sensor bracket kit last time on my old car (had to get longer bolts to space the sensor bracket out further and trim my fan as the trigger hit...weird)

shame as it seems such a simple set up but with an hours wiring can save over £100

Edited by t@z on 1st Oct, 2009.

After having a look at the SC kit at the Pod, all their stuff has evolved massively. The twin cam kit is almost a bolt-on job now. I'm sure you won't have any fitting problems this time round

On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:

I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse

actually i have an incline that the a series package contains the map sensor also which is why its a bit more.

does john k read here much would love some bigger pics and bit more detail on it i.e. plus's over the MJ

Edited by t@z on 1st Oct, 2009.

He does read here quite regularly. I'm sure he will see the thread next time he is on or maybe you could drop him a PM

On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:

I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse

ok the Storm ignition kit for the Mini A series comprises

ECU with CAN interface/software/basemap etc
Loom (same loom for MAP or TPS)
Trigger kit + sensor (see pics of K engine in show us yours section for new trigger wheel)

due to people running turbo's webers, su's etc options are needed!

so the SU HIF TPS kit is £70
the Weber DCOE TPS kit is £59
coil/leads/A series billet bracket £79
MAP sensor £55

Hope this helps - if you need any techie help please give us a call on 01953 859785

cheers

JK

If Carling made Mini engines
it would probably be like this one!

All that shite went straight over my head! Im sticking with a dizzy for now, it still does the job

Paul

I seriously doubt it!

Do you not think mapped ignition would improve your 1/4's Paul?

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.

Not if I dont know how it works

I seriously doubt it!

Maybe you should investigate if you have some spare time

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.

Ive read about it loads of times but it still goes over my head.
Everything Ive read on it assumes I understand the terminology and abbreviations, guess Im a bit thick when it comes to this sort of stuff.
I can use spanners and hammers very well though

Paul

I seriously doubt it!

I wish I could use spanners & hammers half as well as you mate!

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.

One problem is that all the sets Ive seen have shit looking wiring, the other thing is which to go for, many on here use MJ with great success, others say its shit, use a quality DTA.
Can anyone link mr to a site that explains it all in English so I understand it all?

I seriously doubt it!

Dave, I'll happily explain it to you, ask away via PM if you wish.

Will do Tom, but will have to try to think what to ask. Firstly whats the difference between MJ, Weber and DTA and their benefits I guess

PS sorry for the thread hyjack

Paul

I seriously doubt it!