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617 Posts Member #: 6558 Post Whore Pueblo, Colorado, USA |
1st Oct, 2009 at 11:38:33pm
Has anyone taken a rwd a-series motor and thrown it into a mini? Pro's/Con's? I'm looking to put it into my '63(i've posted elsewhere about it, it's not worth restoring) and make a rwd 1/4 mile car out of it.
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 6274 Posts Member #: 509 Post Whore Isle of Man |
2nd Oct, 2009 at 12:03:45am
why not just put the engine in the back, rather than add all the extra weight of the transmission etc that the inline a series involves?
"Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun"
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617 Posts Member #: 6558 Post Whore Pueblo, Colorado, USA |
2nd Oct, 2009 at 05:16:07am
I could do that, but so has a lot of people. I have a big thing about originality and uniqueness. Hence my other mini that's going to recieve a turbo'd 850 lump. I'm just looking for input on a rwd set up, what people think would need to be changed to make it work, etc...
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 969 Posts Member #: 47 Post Whore Not very sunny swanage |
2nd Oct, 2009 at 07:18:09am
might be doable, but i reckon you would have to dry sump the engine if you want it to fit without a massive bonnet bulge....
And on the 7th day........... God created turbochargers! |
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 7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
2nd Oct, 2009 at 08:38:16am
Don't do that to a 63. Buy a Marina, turbocharge that. It'd be great! On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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 3329 Posts Member #: 184 Senior Member Melton Mowbray, Pie Country |
2nd Oct, 2009 at 08:44:15am
I'v always fancied a turbo 200bhp Alegro with brown velor trim. http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
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 9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
2nd Oct, 2009 at 09:29:16am
There used to be a kit car that did exactly this years ago. But I can find no info on them now. Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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 3756 Posts Member #: 1709 I like granny porn. LONDONSHIRE |
2nd Oct, 2009 at 09:54:00am
On 2nd Oct, 2009 Ben H said:
I'v always fancied a turbo 200bhp Alegro with brown velor trim. On 2nd Oct, 2009 Vegard said:
On 1st Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
I bet my first wank came quicker than your first mini turbo These new modern turbos with their quick spool up time, would make the competition harder. On 15th Aug, 2011 robert said:
phew!!! thank you brett for smashing in my back doors .( not something i imagined writing... EVER) |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
2nd Oct, 2009 at 10:19:48am
Haha, yeah me. But I'm only aiming for 120bhp. Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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667 Posts Member #: 1376 Post Whore clock tower with a sniper rifle |
2nd Oct, 2009 at 10:40:59am
Would it be possible to tilt the engine 45 degs without drysumping it? Seen that on the supertricky japanese racer but unsure if it´s dry sumped? internationally known as "big" swede |
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3756 Posts Member #: 1709 I like granny porn. LONDONSHIRE |
2nd Oct, 2009 at 11:06:20am
On 2nd Oct, 2009 wil_h said:
Haha, yeah me. But I'm only aiming for 120bhp. dont want it to break do you....lol On 2nd Oct, 2009 Vegard said:
On 1st Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
I bet my first wank came quicker than your first mini turbo These new modern turbos with their quick spool up time, would make the competition harder. On 15th Aug, 2011 robert said:
phew!!! thank you brett for smashing in my back doors .( not something i imagined writing... EVER) |
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617 Posts Member #: 6558 Post Whore Pueblo, Colorado, USA |
2nd Oct, 2009 at 03:22:34pm
I would normally agree, don't do this to a '63, but it's not worth restoration, not with my other mini already in process. What's all included in dry sumping a car? I've done some preliminary measurements, I think with a little fiddling not too much has to be cut away. The main reason I'm considering it is because I've got a mate that has the engine/gearbox that is free to me. |
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3006 Posts Member #: 2500 Post Whore Buckinghamshire |
2nd Oct, 2009 at 05:12:20pm
Dry sumping on an inline engine wont get you very far if you attach a gearbox.
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3329 Posts Member #: 184 Senior Member Melton Mowbray, Pie Country |
2nd Oct, 2009 at 06:24:34pm
On 2nd Oct, 2009 nutter driver said:
might be doable, but i reckon you would have to dry sump the engine if you want it to fit without a massive bonnet bulge.... not to mention removing large parts of the bulkhead and floor....... i like it though, would be an interesting project..... let me know if you want any measurements, ive got an a35 sat on the drive..... I was just thinking about this and surely the inline A series is no higher than the transverse engine. Sure it will be a bit further forward, but not much. I don't see the point of the conversion myself. If you want something different put an LS1 in it. http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
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617 Posts Member #: 6558 Post Whore Pueblo, Colorado, USA |
2nd Oct, 2009 at 09:00:08pm
I'm trying to stay a-series. I know it sounds crazy, but I enjoy working on them, plus it scares the shit out of the muscle heads here in the U.S. when a little dinky car hauls ass past them. I just think that an a series is where I want to stay, I just want to see how a rwd one would play out in a mini. |
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969 Posts Member #: 47 Post Whore Not very sunny swanage |
2nd Oct, 2009 at 09:23:11pm
On 2nd Oct, 2009 Ben H said:
I was just thinking about this and surely the inline A series is no higher than the transverse engine. Sure it will be a bit further forward, but not much. I don't see the point of the conversion myself. If you want something different put an LS1 in it. no, its not, but the front of the rocker cover and thermostat housing will want to be sharing a large chunk of space with the bonnet i reckon..... youve got me wondering now.... ill check in the morning...... And on the 7th day........... God created turbochargers! |
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1425 Posts Member #: 690 Post Whore Norfolk |
3rd Oct, 2009 at 08:58:19am
day dreaming over a cup of tea a while back I had the same idea, the plan was:-
If Carling made Mini engines
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 9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
3rd Oct, 2009 at 09:03:23am
On 3rd Oct, 2009 johnK said:
complete MX5 rear end - the entire subby/rear arms are very compact and not very deep - would sink into a mini rear end well. very correct, only a slight increase in track too Yes i moved to the darkside |
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4314 Posts Member #: 700 Formerly British Open Classic The West Country |
3rd Oct, 2009 at 09:14:51am
I found it a whole lot easier to buy a Midget. Isambard Kingdom Brunel said:
Nothing is impossible if you are an Engineer |
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7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
3rd Oct, 2009 at 09:17:00am
If it's not worth restoring it, why do you contemplate this? Bin it then, buy a Midget... On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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617 Posts Member #: 6558 Post Whore Pueblo, Colorado, USA |
4th Oct, 2009 at 05:47:51am
bin a mini? Why, sir, surely you must be joking. If I wanted a midget, I would join and/or start a turbomidgets.co.uk forum. As is, I want an only a-series powered mini that is rear wheel drive. |
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1303 Posts Member #: 30 Post Whore Epsom, Surrey |
4th Oct, 2009 at 08:47:08am
no sain person would go to the effort of making a mini RWD and yet keep the A series engine, when there are so many more powerfull and reliable engines out there.
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617 Posts Member #: 6558 Post Whore Pueblo, Colorado, USA |
4th Oct, 2009 at 09:36:04pm
I never said I was sane. |
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203 Posts Member #: 1734 Senior Member Lancaster |
5th Oct, 2009 at 12:05:16am
heres a dry sumped inline a series LOL. This one powered an imp in a previous life.
Edited by manifold on 5th Oct, 2009. |
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617 Posts Member #: 6558 Post Whore Pueblo, Colorado, USA |
5th Oct, 2009 at 05:34:07am
That's a lot of belts. So, again I pose the question, what's all involved in dry sumping? Get rid of the oil pan, or at least put a very shallow one on, and not have any fluid in it really? And would a oil pan really be to much lower than the gearbox in the mini currently? |
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I just think it's a great idea, and if it doesn't work, or I get a large amount of cash from somewhere I might try something even more rash, such as a r33 awd conversion... But I've got a mate that's giving me the whole motor, gearbox, rear end set up off his old midget that he doesn't want anymore(no he doesn't have the car).
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