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John

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We are just getting ready to put the vans engine back together.

However we are in two minds about whether we should have the rotating assembly balanced. (Crank, Fly, Clutch, Damper)

This is a budget build which we are hoping for about 140+ nana's from when set up. A typical rev limit of about 6k but perhaps stretching to 6.5k for the strip.

The question is do you think it is worth having the balancing done?

Edited by John on 16th Oct, 2009.

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


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Are all the bits from the same engine?

Either way each bit will have been balanced at some point so should be fine for a road engine.

If you had the time and money then yes, but it's not critical for your needs.

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whats the cost of having it balanced?


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imo if the flywheel and crank are from the same engine it shouldnt be far out

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Built from 'spares' - preverto flywheel from one engine, rod's and pistons from another, crank from a third, timing gear from a 4th etc etc

Balancing is about £60 iirc.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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for £60 its got to be worth doing suerly?


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I think I'm leaning towards doing it.

We've been trying to work with the mantra 'do it once and do it right' as we've had two many projects getting in the way of our mini builds rescently.

I'd be annoyed if we'd put all the effort in to building it just to have the engine fail due to skimping on a £60 balance...

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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On 16th Oct, 2009 apbellamy said:

I'd be annoyed if we'd put all the effort in to building it just to have the engine fail due to skimping on a £60 balance...


so would i , if it was my engine .
ps still trying to find out if th servo you have will be ok on mine .
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On 16th Oct, 2009 apbellamy said:
Built from 'spares' - preverto flywheel from one engine, rod's and pistons from another, crank from a third, timing gear from a 4th etc etc

Balancing is about £60 iirc.


tbh whats 60quid? and as you put it like that i would for peace of mind at least

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In all honesty I wanted to balance it anyway but wanted an opinion before forking out hard earned. Balancing it is then.

Just got to find time to get the assembly over the balancers.

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


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On 16th Oct, 2009 Brett said:
tbh whats 60quid?

Quite a lot when your budget is £0 *oh well*

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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On 16th Oct, 2009 apbellamy said:
On 16th Oct, 2009 Brett said:
tbh whats 60quid?

Quite a lot when your budget is £0 *oh well*

*surprised* i think you have done well soo far for a 0quid budget

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have it ballanced john, as you have a miss match of parts






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at that sort of cash i think you would regret it later if you didn't


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Yep all the comments on this thread have decided it for us. For the sake of £57.50 including vat we may as well go for it!

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On 16th Oct, 2009 minimadmotorman said:
Yep all the comments on this thread have decided it for us. For the sake of £57.50 including vat we may as well go for it!


where abouts you taking it?

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After building a variety of engines with help from a mate - he came to rebuild his mum's std 1275 metro and chose to balance it. He reckoned it transformed the car and made it nice to drive!

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On 16th Oct, 2009 Brett said:

On 16th Oct, 2009 minimadmotorman said:
Yep all the comments on this thread have decided it for us. For the sake of £57.50 including vat we may as well go for it!

where abouts you taking it?


Can't remember the name, but they are at Glasshoughton

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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Picked the rotating assembly up last night, they said it was relativly OK for a standard crank. They've taken a fair bit of it, so it should be good now. Also, they've marked it all up so that we can get it back together the same way and keep the balance.

The firm's name is Engine Data Analysis. They where very friendly and helpfull and had a good chat with me. They mainly do Ford and Chevvy V8s, but will do things like balancing for most engines.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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they just as you go into Xscape? on the right?

I know there is a race engine building place, they have extractors poking out towards the road.


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On 23rd Oct, 2009 iain said:
they just as you go into Xscape? on the right?

I know there is a race engine building place, they have extractors poking out towards the road.

Yes, kind of opposite MC Donalds.

They where at the Pod at the weekend. We where having a good laugh about that Corsa that chav boy rolled into the barrier *hehe!*

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*

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