KAD Quickshift Problems
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I've got a new KAD Quickshift that I attempted to fit tonight, not as easy as I expected a gearstick swap to be and I'm not happy with it, something isnt right.

First off, the 2 M5 bolts, are they supposed to screw into the holes that are left after drifting out the old pins? because I cant push the stick down far enough to line them up, they sit to high. Am I missing something?

Secondly, its really really stiff, so much so that when moving the stick left to right the stick doesnt actually move, the whole gear mechanism moves! Is it possible to unscrew the silver ring above the main blue cover to loosen/re-grease it?

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When I fitted mine it was really stiff, after a while it loosens up though.

I wouldn't go back to a standard shift now. I found it needed a little bit of messing about with the direction of the stick to get the shift smooth though.

what about the 2 bolts either side, did they screw into the holes from the old pins?

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You need to get the body right down so that the bolts go through the holes, otherwise it will not work correctly.

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Is this shifter the one with the lift collar, to engage reverse? If it is, the siver knurled collar at the base of the shifter generates the pressure on the stick. you can slacken it off a little to ease the stiffness.

The problems you describe sounds like the problems you have with the copy quick shifters. I would be very surprised if you had these problems with a genuine KAD shifter.


There is a topic on here some where about how to modify the copy shifters to get them to work. I cannot remember who the original poster was though, Turbo Tel comes to mind, but I could be wrong.

Dont go and modify a genuine KAD though, if it is genuine, phone KAD and ask their advice!!

Edited by Sprocket on 26th Oct, 2009.

Yes its a genuine KAD with lift collar, I did try to turn the silver collar at the base but couldn't shift it, maybe I'm just being a bit weak!

I'll have another look tomorrow about trying to get the body pressed down, maybe there's some crap in the way or something. Will report back tomorrow.

Edited by Simon on 26th Oct, 2009.

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Grease the moving parts inside the quick shift. This will ease it a bit

Scrap the lot, it'll end up breaking your synchro's.

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That is only one perspective.

You can break synchros with a normal stick too

I had a similar problem at first. Thought i was gonna break the selector bobbins cos it was so tight. I freed mine up a bit by turning the silver collar in the vice and as mentioned by minimole they free up after a bit of use.

A friend rounde the corner from me put a thin spacer in his to reduce the pressure, made it useable atleast.

Paul

I seriously doubt it!

My genuine KAD fitted like a glove. I have fitted a minispares one before on another car and this one caused me some grief. Ended up taking the gear change completly off so I could give the housing a good wire brushing as a load of crud was stopping the new housing sitting properly.

Day 2 was much more successful. The blue housing was still sitting a good 8mm to high, so i put my thumbs either side and put all my weight on it and pop, it went straight on. I think the ball on the end just needed a little help into place.

I did ask on the KAD forum about the issue and they advised not unscrewing the silver collar as it fitted with thread lock, but said if I did slacken it off to make sure I used thread lock on it again.

There is a but however, its not the smoothest into 3rd and 4th, 1st and 2nd are fine but its not easy at all to get into 3rd and near on impossible into 4th. I guess I should mention this is a brand new engine and gearbox build and the car isnt drivable yet but with the standard gear stick in I was able to select all gear no problem. Is it possible to tweak the KAD in anyway as I notice minimole23 said he had to play about with it to get it smooth.

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i had trouble with it getting stuck between 1+2 / 3+4 i replaced the rubber hangers on the selector box mount and it help alot, then i ended up using a long bolt with washers and nuts on the hanger closest to the drivers side to solid mount (ish) that side witch made 2-3 change alot easier

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Yes I did do a post on making the Knock off Quickshift work better but in the end once the dollar/pound weakened I went to the genuine KAD and it works a treat, its simply more precise. I am surprised you are having problems with it.

On the syncros, yes I suppose if you get impatient with it and muscle the thing around you could cause damage simply because you have more leverage but as long as you forget the "Quick" bit and just accept its really a "Shortshift" its works fine. I definitely have to be patient getting it into 1st gear but after that I can flick it around the rest of the gears with a single finger, I would never go back now.

Edited by Turbo Tel on 28th Oct, 2009.

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Two pointers from experience:

1) - Strip off the two circlips that hold the ball in place at the bottom of the shaft and inspect the chrome plating in the groove. If it looks like the groove has been partially filled in then use a hacksaw or similar to clean it out.
As a minimum loctite the circlips in place. They come adrift then you lose all gear change.

2) - Slacken the 6 screws holding the cover plate on the bottom of the selector housing and push it as far over to the driver's side of the car as possible before tighetning up. The fraction of movement you get can make it much easier to get 3rd/4th.

I'll give point 2 a go...but don't you mean passenger side?

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Left Hand Drive?

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.

No I mean driver's side.

You tend to get problems as the stick moves too far towards reverse and past the 3rd/4th gate.
Pushing the plate over to the driver's side moves the 'divider' towards the centre of the selector box and hence lessens how far over the stick will move.

Ah I get ya, sorry, I was under the impression the stick wasn't moving far enough to get to 3rd/4th rather than moving past them.

I'll give it a go tonight, thanks

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Point 2 is a good one!

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This is definitely definitely a new style genuine unit and not a Minisport copy?
If problems send it back to KAD!

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know

No Minisport had it copied by their chinese agents!

'6.2.06
Change in new quickshift
All genuine KAD quickshifts sold from March 2006 onwards will now be anodised blue with a distinct machined groove beneath the knurled screw cap.We have made this change so that customers will be able to spot the genuine quickshifts from the copies on sale. The copy quickshifts, anodised purple can be secondarily identified by their poor finish, knotchy operation and silver plated plunger at the base of the stick. The first version of the KAD quickshifts which were anodised purple will always have a black plunger at the base of the stick. The copy will also not be supplied with the distinctive KAD badge or instruction sheet.'

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know

Edited by Sprocket on 29th Oct, 2009.