Turbo over the Clutch (minimag car)
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so just got MiniMag and there's another turbo in it which is great however this one has a clutch housing mounted turbo.

does anyone know the guy i assume he is probably on here as i want to know where he got it made and rough costs. If he made it himself how did he go about making it or does anyone know of a place that makes them.

reason is i'm not cutting my bulk head and mirages 2nd hand are like rocking horse poop or go faster than the USS enterprise.

plus i kinda like the idea of it being accessible.

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in the november issue? what page?

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yup page 38 red one with black spots on the doors looks really nice.

Horrible bends!

On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:

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ive not had chance to read the magd properly yet but that is a horrible install imo it could have been soo much neater and better thought out, and i dont think the fuel filter is meant to see positive pressure, i have one but i am sure its a pre pump filter only

taz i would have a look here http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=288004

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no probs, its a great thread, thanks to paul for the porn

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hello, ive got a flywheel mounted turbo manifold made from a lcb (i think) will try to get the photos up on here tonight.

there are a few things that need to be modified, wok cover and oil drain. I bought mine off ebay but im sure its possible to copy, just haven't got round to getting a price.

theoneeyedlizard was talking about making a link pipe form the metro turbo to the fly wheel, just one pipe then

Edited by wintersurferuk on 9th Nov, 2009.

here you go!

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bottom two holes go into the wok


the slave had to be moved, gets a little hot next to the down pipe, now mounted to the front, should have the block together by the weekend so will be uploading more pics :) give you a better idea, plus i might have a price for a copy

i like that alot!! i would have found a way around the clutch though, they are bad enough as it is :(

Edited by Brett on 9th Nov, 2009.

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I got a lcb hmm but don't really wanna chop up a stg 2 maniflow......ebay :)

Is it just that's design or will the slave have to be moved no matter what?

I wanna say looks simple enough haha but I know it isn't :p

Sorry for any spelling mistakes on phone

Edited by t@z on 9th Nov, 2009.

i have researched a good few sidemount installs and thats the first time i have seen mods like that to the clutch slave + wok

i am going sidemount and i wont be moving the clutch arm

although dont take that as an insult
wintersurferuk i am not doubting the work done on yours, just i want the simplest swap able to fit all big bore engines

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History ha sshown that LCBs modified for turbo fitment tend to crack. Good luck with it though.

My preffered method is the 'J' pipe from the metro manifold, or look at what Paul S has made for a perfect solution.

Having sais all that, my turbo's are staying down the back of the engine, easier for installation and better for weight distribution and CofG.

I agree with the above on the install in Minimag, not nice bends, but a decent fit.

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I have one in the for sale section. Good used one, but no clamps....

atm i'm just toying with the idea and seeing how feisable it is not only to make (very limited skills here) and the limited capabilities of it like you say the cracking.

would just be some fun if i come across a free lcb someone cant shift but wanted more details and pics on it which this thread has been great as a point of reference to start from. Your thread was really interesting Paul S think i might learn come CAD what program do you use?

that being said i'd love a mirage pray one comes up before next apr or could just buy one new do they do student discount

Edited by t@z on 9th Nov, 2009.

Bought the whole lot off flebay, £250. that was for the wok, down pipe, manifold, turbo with adjustable boost autrater, link pipe and back box, I was planning on doing the mirage or supercharger route as I don't want to cut the bulkhead.

The manifold could of been thicker to prevent cracking, especially as I intended to wrap the lot, after reading toms thread I'm not so sure! if it end's up cracking after a few thousand miles I'll just make it thicker next time, I'm sure mini13 can give me a few pointers lol :)

The slave could stay where it was, think I've seen a Janspeed one where the slave has an extension bar on it, so it sits further away from the down pipe. Doing this from scratch I would try to keep it where it was and make some kind of heat shield for it. :) Have heard of the clutch fluid boiling. :?

I'm hoping to have the gearbox back this weekend so I can see where the oil drain will go, so should have some photos by Sunday.... (sorry for bad spelling) lol

I'm soon gonna be building something along these lines for a spare 1098 I've got. Using a mg metro exhaust manifold, some pipe and a small kkk turbo. should be fun.

Just thought I would add this link as it may be useful to somebody doing a transfer casing turbo setup

http://www.shengineering.co.uk/pcmclutchkit.aspx

On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:

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nice, no need to bleed the clutch, ever!
:)

got some cool bits on that site.

***stupid question***
how does that work i can kinda picture it in my head but its not working how i imagine it.

anyone gota pic?

how does it fit i cant figure it out?

too slow lol

Edited by Brett on 12th Nov, 2009.

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no shit tha mini turbo in the mag is wank i hate the hole thing , i feel like saying the hole point of having a turbo is to make the engine have a compressible amount of air in the cylinder instead of just what the piston can pull in in a vacuum so why would you bother putting a turbo engine in then start restricting the air with those bends and adding extra pipe witch will just make the lag worse lol and it also makes the air turbulent on those bends witch will effect the way it starts to burn in the cylinder

but yea having a clutch mounted turbo is all well if you enjoy lag, you need to think about retarding the ignition to compensate for the extra space you are creating with the longer manifold plus here are a few things you may wona look at before you start putting that horribly welded thing on your engine

exhaust pulse;
flow in pipes;
raynold number;
boundry layers;
computational fluid dynamics;
incompressible fluid flow;
compressible fluid flow;
exhaust lengths :

all these things need to be taken into account before you will get any power out of it

you may wona look at acoustics to :)

also why the hell is his car in the mag its not even that good, most people on here will probably agree that some people who have mini turbos have done such a better job than that!!! sorry i am ranting that car pisses me of lol

I dont like the way you've put it, but you speak a lot of sense!!!