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Hi Guys,

just at the stage of the gearbox build where i put the pinion gear on the main shaft and what do you know the bastard will not go on far enough due to its diameter.

does anyone know if anyone makes a 3.2:1 CWP to suit A series remote box?

i do not want to go to rod change as they suck.

if not i may have to go back to a 3.44 diff and use different drop gears to get 3.2:1

does anyone have a list of the different ratios available for the a series gearbox?

any thoughts guys?

Edited by RED850 on 2nd Feb, 2010.

179hp on 12psi 1293cc of pure A series
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I had the same even with an (early) A+ box.

It's the bearing retaining plate, they made the bore of it larger for the later boxes that had larger pinions.

Otherwise it's identical, I just sourced one from a late A+ box but you can simply bore the one you have out slightly (or even grind it carefully) until the pinion runs inside it without rubbing.

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???


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Rod is 100% right, get another retainer, or bore yours out.


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I concur

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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You cannot get a different retainer, they're all the same.
You'll need to grind the one you have. Easy.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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Thats where you are wrong Vegard

There is deffo a diferent retainer especialy for the 2.9 and 2.7 ratios

And I doubt Rover would have filed or ground out all post 1992 retainers just for the fun of fitting 3.1, 3.2 or 2.7 final drives

*wink*

Edited by Sprocket on 2nd Feb, 2010.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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I doubt Rover were making many post 1992 remote change boxes *wink*


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True, but I can't remember any other physical difference in the retainer plate between the remote and rod change boxes.....

The bearing it retains is certainly the same and, from memory, the little locking plate for the lay and reverse shafts (which is also located by the main retainer) is also the same ???

I may be wrong as I'm going by memory so if the remote box used a slightly different retainer, just machine the existing one out just like Leyland/Rover did later on anyway.

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???


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On 3rd Feb, 2010 Rod S said:
True, but I can't remember any other physical difference in the retainer plate between the remote and rod change boxes.....

The bearing it retains is certainly the same and, from memory, the little locking plate for the lay and reverse shafts (which is also located by the main retainer) is also the same ???

I may be wrong as I'm going by memory so if the remote box used a slightly different retainer, just machine the existing one out just like Leyland/Rover did later on anyway.


You are wrong *wink*




On 2nd Feb, 2010 Sprocket said:
Thats where you are wrong Vegard

There is deffo a diferent retainer especialy for the 2.9 and 2.7 ratios

And I doubt Rover would have filed or ground out all post 1992 retainers just for the fun of fitting 3.1, 3.2 or 2.7 final drives

*wink*



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On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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On 3rd Feb, 2010 Vegard said:

You are wrong *wink*


I stand corrected, I've just found an old photo of all mine before I scrapped them and the "remote" retainer has an extra lug on its side.....
I can't for the life of me remember what it's for (no doubt Vegard will remind me :) ) but I stand by my alternative, just machine out the existing one like Leyland/Rover did to the later ones and then the bigger pinions will fit...

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???


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A picture and a thousand words and so on:

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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Forgive my thickness but is this the retainer?

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


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there is not big problem to modify.
i have 2,9 diff on magic wand box and 1,3A+ block *wink*
i hope to find the photos to show.


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On 3rd Feb, 2010 minimadmotorman said:
Forgive my thickness but is this the retainer?

Yes

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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On 3rd Feb, 2010 Vegard said:


On 2nd Feb, 2010 Sprocket said:
Thats where you are wrong Vegard

There is deffo a diferent retainer especialy for the 2.9 and 2.7 ratios

And I doubt Rover would have filed or ground out all post 1992 retainers just for the fun of fitting 3.1, 3.2 or 2.7 final drives

*wink*



I'm correct, you're wrong!


Ah shit, remote box, I have never had one of those, and yes, dickhead I am:$

However, you said that the retainers are all the same, when infact there are three types, so in a round about way, you are still wrong *hehe!*

Edited by Sprocket on 3rd Feb, 2010.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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It's a good job that we all know there is more to life than being right all the time *wink*

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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Someone told me the other day.

He who makes no mistakes makes nothing!

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On 3rd Feb, 2010 Sprocket said:
On 3rd Feb, 2010 Vegard said:


On 2nd Feb, 2010 Sprocket said:
Thats where you are wrong Vegard

There is deffo a diferent retainer especialy for the 2.9 and 2.7 ratios

And I doubt Rover would have filed or ground out all post 1992 retainers just for the fun of fitting 3.1, 3.2 or 2.7 final drives

*wink*



I'm correct, you're wrong!


Ah shit, remote box, I have never had one of those, and yes, dickhead I am:$

However, you said that the retainers are all the same, when infact there are three types, so in a round about way, you are still wrong *hehe!*


Obviously I commented on the remote ones. If you mean all types, there are four different ones. Get your facts right *wink*

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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How much weight difference is between them then?

I seriously doubt it!


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Woopsy

Edited by paul wiginton on 3rd Feb, 2010.

I seriously doubt it!


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Vegard, i'll be honest and say it matters not a jott to me *hehe!* My info came from Somerford Minis catalogue, and looking again you are indeed right.

Either way, you're right and im wrong*oh well*

How do you get to become such a mind of information *hehe!*


On 3rd Feb, 2010 paul wiginton said:
How much weight difference is between them then?


Lol

I'll bet Fast Carl has titanium ones on the Twini

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........

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