possible camber/castor toe in/out settings
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Hi peeps,

Now i have my brakes in order, and fully adjusteble suspention fitted I would like to get the lot setup nicly.

Details are as follows

998 N/A mini ( will get turbo'd soon)
10x5 ATS alloys with Falken FK07E tyres
Fully adjustable rear camber/tracking brakets ( Mini-its )
Adjustable ti-rods ( Mini-its )
adustable camber bottem arms ( Mini-its )
Original hi-lo set

all bushings are rubber apart form the adjusteble bottem arms
new top arm pin kit installd left and right side
new rear arm pins installd left and right
new ball joints on front hubs and new stering rack ends installd.

What i am looking for is a good setup for (fast)road driving ( it is a daily driver ) i do chuk it around the roundabouts and back lanes I may take the car to a track day once or twice a year, but i am not looking to change the tires evry two months.

I have tride to search for some decent setings (google and on here) but end up on nascar sites and those things only turn Left Pointless if you ask me!

I have found verious front camber settings rangeing from 0.5 neg to 2.5 neg camber but not mutch else.

I have also read somwehere that toe-out on the rear of a mini is leathal if your not ready for it, as a mini wil over steer with rear toe out, Correct?
I am used to over steer on my work car (pug 1.1 205) this is fun round the corners but will stick its arse out easely in the wet it sits on 13 145 tyres verry thin..( bit of front wheel drive corner drifting scares the mates )

What about this corner waying is it worth it? how does one go about this??

So please put up your settings/advised settings front and rear camber castor and tracking don't forget your wheel and tyre size.

If I have missed a topic on the above or put this in the wrong spot please move or deleat this.

Cheers, Andrew

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1983 mini down paid, must collect soon and get welding!
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my fronts are 3 degrees negative canber and about 4 degrees posivive caster, i cant remember what my KPI was but it was about right for a mini even with the metro hubs fitted which was wiered,
rear cambers 0-0.5 degrees negative and i think the toes 1.5 toe in from memory.
this settups worked well for me on the road and i can just throw it round islands without ever geting near the traction limits, the front camber may be considered excessive for a road car but i have no problems with traction for 125bhp and a008s on 6x10 wellers and can easily outbrake anyone else on the roads.
i dont get understeer unless its wet and in the dry i can flik the back out if i want but generaly it just grips like hell and may try to randomly spin the inside wheel / torque steer if im really giving it the beans

hope this helps

As will beome apparent in all setup threads there is much conflicting opinion.

I personally run 0 deg camber at the rear and I've just lowered the front and left it as it is iirc, 0.5 neg camber and 4 deg caster. Rear toes in but not sure how much if I'm honest.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

front ,1.5 neg camber ,...4 degrees caster... 1mm toe in .
rear ,.5 deg neg camber ...1mm toe in .

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM

Robert, why would you run toe in at the front?

so my feet are closer to the brake pedal.

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM

Thanks, this is starting to be a good list of peoples possible setups, Keep it coming.

I was thinking of going 0.5 neg Camber allround 3.5 -4 degrees front castor, little bit of toe out upfront and straight or slightly toe in on the rear.

Enyone have eny opinions on this?

how about this corner waying , do i need to do this or wil just settin gthe ride hight be fine?

Thanks....

Cheers, Andrew

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Little car Little power........... For now That is!!!!!

1983 mini down paid, must collect soon and get welding!
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10" x 5.5"

Front 3 deg neg, 4 castor 1mm toe out.

Rear 1mm toe in and straight up, or .5 deg neg.

I use less camber as wheel size goes up. as in 1 deg for 13" or 2 deg for 6" wide.

Not sure on corner weight though

10" x 4,5 and 10" x 5, R32´s

front 3 neg camber, 6 castor, 1 mm toe out

rear, 1,5 neg, 1mm toe in, arb

will try paralell and maybe a wee toe out at the rear this year + soft up the front /stiff up the rear (this is track setup)

internationally known as "big" swede

Thanks to all, this is great, but have a question, does the 3 + degrees of front camber not compleatly chew the front tires??

As for the corner waying I understand that it is possible ( with standard rubber suspention and HI-Lo's fitted) to have the front right and left rear (for instance) beareing most of the waight of the car.

so eventhou it looks like it is sitting wel on all four corners the car could turn wel and not roll mutch in a left hand corner but be verry awkwerd when takeing a richt hand corner! Hope you see what i am getting at.

I geuss it would be similiar to having two soft springs and two hard springs fitted diagonaly on the car, that shurely would make spirited driveing intersting?? as the car would in corners be in a way pivoting on the two corners exerting the moste pressure on the road the other two are basicly acting as stabelisers when the car is on level ground

By waying the car at all four corners ( each wheel on a scale) and adjusting the hi-lo's acordingly you shuld manage to get each wheel/corner exerting the same amount of pressure on the road thus the car would be as stif no matter whitch way the corener goes.......... This would also maxemize traction and braking or am I getting it wrong here.

It seems logic to me but does enybody have eny comments on this.

Cheers, Andrew

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Little car Little power........... For now That is!!!!!

1983 mini down paid, must collect soon and get welding!
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