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jamesfawcett

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Just been trying to set my timing today because the car was running really bad when i got it back. Twisting the dizzy slightly clockwise has made a big difference, the revs rised and it stopped missfiring as much. I cant see a mark though with the timing light to set it to, so maybe it hasnt got one.

I need to turn it more clockwise but the module on the distributor hits the starter motor, is ther any way of rotating the distributor so the module is on the other side, maybe even flipping it 180degrees so the electrical connectors are at the top of the dizzy, is it possible?

Only thing is if i take it to the rolling road this week they might want to turn it more but they wont be able to!

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Mirage

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Try moving your spark plug HT cables around to the next hole in an anticlockwise direction. This has the effect of moving your timing clockwise by 90 degs. You will most likely end up having to rotate the body of the dibby anticlockwise a fair bit from where it is now, as the 90 degs gained will be way to much but it will mean that the assembly should be well clear of your starter when its in the correct position.

Have you rotated your engine over by hand and found TDC and had a look for you timing mark. I always find the timing mark and put a blob of tippex on it so it shows up nice and bright when i get the strobe on it.

Edited by Mirage on 16th Jan, 2005.


jamesfawcett

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Excellent ok i will do that and mark out a mark there in tippex, i didnt know to be honest whether it was possible on a turbo mini to have one with the advancing dizzy but ill go do that tomorow morning :) thats great news about the dizzy i really appreciate your help thankyou very much :)

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3


jamesfawcett

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by the way to find top dead centre, do i just find the exact position that the dizzy arm is in when its firing at cylinder one yeah? I was thinking of pushing the mini in 4th gear to rotate the the rotor arm to find this, with a torch will i be able to see the piston down the spark plug hole??

thanks :)

Edited by jamesfawcett on 16th Jan, 2005.

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3


Mirage

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to find tdc i take out plug (all 4 makes it a bit easier to turn engine over). I then carefully lower in a welding rod or stiff peice of wire into cyliner 1 and turn the engine over. you will feel very easily when the engine goes over tdc. You will have a mark some where, usually on the Crank damper / pulley

You cant use the position of the rotor arm to give you an accurate tdc and besides to complicate things the dibby goes at half crank rpm.


minimark

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you can al;so remove the dizzy and replace it a tooth out on the dizzy drive

Everyone knows that instructions only have to be read if the thing doesn't work....


Nic

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do you know what rich, thats exactly what someone did to my car!

or you could take a piece of wood, and a hammer and carefully and gently hit the oil pipe back a touch, but be careful incase you fracture it


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Yep, move the dizzy drive spint around one tooth. works everytime.

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jamesfawcett

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it worked, now with the dizzy twisted fully to the left (anticlockwise) the vacuum advance mushroom is at the top, and the timing is pefect according to my timing light and it runs alot smoother. Could do with playing with the teeth next though and getting the timing right within the centre of the dizzys twisting ammount.

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3

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