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Celebrating the fact that im working close to home next week im hoping to crack on with my car.

First job is to put the engine back together.....

Ive never built up a bottom end before, ive had new cam bearings put in and am installing new mains, big end bearings and thrusts.

Can anyone offer me any suggestions on what I should be using as a lube for these?

Any other top tips would be muchly appreciated to save me ruining my bits and pieces

Much obliged
Nic

KY

really?
who makes this ky? castrol or someone?
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i use that torco engine lube that minispares do,

Graphogen is what you want, its the daddy of assy lubes.

My dads mate who used to own/run a machine shop tells the tale of the guy who built an engine up with all new shells etc etc, plenty of graphogen.
Stupidly he didn't check the oil pressure and got 10 miles down the road on the graphogen before it either seized or knocked itself to death (can't remember which). He hadn't put oil in it.

Edited by Tom Fenton on 10th Mar, 2010.

millers do a lovely smelling blue assembly lube

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Edited by rubicon on 11th Mar, 2010.

Oh ho ho ho ho, very good, what you forget is that I can change your user title to whatever I want. Hmm let me have a think.

There's an article on engine lube in Mini Magazine April 2010 issue 171 which tests/assesses used engine oil from a Turbo Mini.

Millers Oil is what you need for our A series engine/gearbox/diff/turbo combination www.millersoils-online.co.uk they supply a whole range of lubes & additives.

One for the bodgers (i.e. me) I use that 'stop smoke' oil. Really thick gloupy stuff. Never had a problem.

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Most of what has been mentioned will be Ok, but its probably more important to get oil pressure before start up any way.
I,m old school and use Wynns on the bearings and a good dose of EP90 on the cams and then spin it with the starter until there is at least 40psi on the gauge, usually before I even put the head on.

There seems to be some confusion between assembly lube & oil, they are not the same thing.

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I always getting it spinning over on the starter to get oil pressure when ive got an engine back together. Perhaps im a bit paranoid but i also do this if the car has sat for a few weeks too

Im quite excited about doing some work on the car, infact perhaps i should be out there now instead of tapping on this

If you 'prime' the the oil system before you put the head on, you will have to prime the oil system again when the head is installed.

I have only ever used EP90 to lube the shaft bearings during assembly which is quite adequate.

I only ever use WD40 to lube the pistons/rings etc during assembly, I never use any sort of oil. The WD40 allows the rings/bore to 'bed-in' whereas oil doesn't.

If the engine is assembled several months prior to start-up, apply some more WD40 prior to start-up to make sure there is plenty WD40 on the bores when you start the engine.

You can't over lube the bores with WD40, because the excess drains away, (but don't fill the piston dishes with WD40).

I've just used that on my new cam..

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
VEMS + 12 PSI + Liquid Intercooler = Small Bore FUN!

Always willing to learn Laurence so can you please tell me why the engine would need to be primed both after and before head installation, please.

Well, without the head fitted, only the block etc will be primed.




The head contains oil galleries/rocker gear etc & in the twincam heads there will be two camshafts etc which will need priming.

If you have a turbo it will need priming.

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Edited by Rob H on 11th Mar, 2010.

all tgis engine buildin glube seems like a who;e lot of hard work to me,

i build my engines completely dry, [i
have a cronic allergy to oil based products ],

then i imerses the complete unit in a vat of 90 weight gear oil heated to 110 degs, so it flows in all the nooks and crannies, i leave it tio soak for a week then remove , steam clean the outside so i don't get any oil on my pandies and roberts your sisters brother,

never had a problem with my methods,

carl

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