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![]() 1745 Posts Member #: 375 Post Whore Leicestershire |
14th Apr, 2010 at 09:26:11am
A daft crank grinding question. If the crank is ground 20 thou undersize is that 20 thou off each face or 10 thou off either side. I don't have anything to hand to measure.
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![]() 7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
14th Apr, 2010 at 09:28:54am
It's the diameter that counts, not the radius. On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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![]() 9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
14th Apr, 2010 at 09:31:12am
it makes the diameter 20 thou smaller
Yes i moved to the darkside |
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![]() 10023 Posts Member #: 1456 Mongo Barnsley, South Flatcapshire |
14th Apr, 2010 at 09:31:16am
Definately take it somewhere that knows what they are doing with it Ron. If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of. |
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![]() 1745 Posts Member #: 375 Post Whore Leicestershire |
14th Apr, 2010 at 09:31:28am
Sorry I was supposed to say on the thrust faces. |
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400 Posts Member #: 2563 Senior Member Tamworth |
14th Apr, 2010 at 09:40:32am
You are going to struggle to get oversize thrust bearings to suit.
Edited by 01smartc on 14th Apr, 2010.
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Site Admin ![]() 9407 Posts Member #: 58 455bhp per ton 12 sec 1/4 mile road legal mini Sunny Bridgend, South Wales |
14th Apr, 2010 at 09:53:28am
you will need t get 30 thou bearings and surface grind them to the correct thickness On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:
I think the welsh one has it right! 1st to provide running proof of turbo twinkie in a car and first to run a 1/4 in one!! Is your data backed up?? one extra month free for all Turbo minis members, PM me for detials |
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![]() 10023 Posts Member #: 1456 Mongo Barnsley, South Flatcapshire |
14th Apr, 2010 at 10:02:33am
Do you have to take material off both surfaces Jim? I would imagine that the bearing material is only so thick? If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of. |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
14th Apr, 2010 at 10:33:30am
No they dont
On 14th Apr, 2010 01smartc said:
You are going to struggle to get oversize thrust bearings to suit. They only come in +3 thou and +30 thou. Edited by Sprocket on 14th Apr, 2010. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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940 Posts Member #: 1424 Post Whore Carnforth, Lancs |
14th Apr, 2010 at 11:16:16am
I assume you can also achieve 0.0025" by using half of a +0.05" set? |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
14th Apr, 2010 at 11:55:14am
Yep, true :) On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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![]() 6966 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
14th Apr, 2010 at 02:21:34pm
Ron, is rthew crank hardened, if not ive simply turned a new face on nice and steady, if hardened i can use ceramic inserts to do that too,
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![]() 6753 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
14th Apr, 2010 at 04:42:23pm
On 14th Apr, 2010 Sprocket said:
No they dont Moss do +0.005" You can mix and match the over size thrusts, as one side is only half of the stated total oversive. For example, a +0.003" thrust set will give +0.015" if you use one side along with STD thrusts on the other side. So using a combination of all the available thrusts you should have a selection available similar to the below 0.0015 0.0025 0.003 0.004 0.005 0.015 0.0165 0.0175 0.030 For example, a +0.003" thrust set will give +0.015" if you use one side along with STD thrusts on the other side. im probably being really thick but ...do you mean +0.0015 here colin ? and how do you get all those other options from a choice of 3,5,and 30 thou over ? Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
14th Apr, 2010 at 06:05:02pm
On 14th Apr, 2010 robert said:
On 14th Apr, 2010 Sprocket said:
No they dont Moss do +0.005" You can mix and match the over size thrusts, as one side is only half of the stated total oversive. For example, a +0.003" thrust set will give +0.015" if you use one side along with STD thrusts on the other side. So using a combination of all the available thrusts you should have a selection available similar to the below 0.0015 0.0025 0.003 0.004 0.005 0.015 0.0165 0.0175 0.030 For example, a +0.003" thrust set will give +0.015" if you use one side along with STD thrusts on the other side. im probably being really thick but ...do you mean +0.0015 here colin ? and how do you get all those other options from a choice of 3,5,and 30 thou over ? Yes Robert that is a typo. You can achive all those sizes by mixing the different sizes per side. Going back to my original example (without the obvious mistake) standard thrusts on one side and '+0.003" on the other side is an increase of only 0.0015", it is half of the +0.003" set as you only get +0.003" with the complete set of +0.003" thrusts. I thought this was common knowledge? Edited by Sprocket on 7th Oct, 2010. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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![]() 6753 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
14th Apr, 2010 at 06:14:15pm
ah ,i tought it was a typo ,thanks colin. Edited by robert on 14th Apr, 2010. Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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![]() 1745 Posts Member #: 375 Post Whore Leicestershire |
14th Apr, 2010 at 07:33:12pm
I thought I had it right in my head and the chap that was doing it was wrong in what he was trying to say!
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72 Posts Member #: 6792 Advanced Member |
14th Apr, 2010 at 08:22:32pm
On 14th Apr, 2010 Star Mag said:
Sorry I was supposed to say on the thrust faces. It comes off the TOTAL, so to achieve +0.020" as in your example they could take 0".010 off each side or the 20 thou off one side. The idea of the 0.030" Oversized thrust is so the back can be ground to give whatever thrust bearings you need. This is why many manufacturers offer only +0.003" and 0.030" Thrusts. Edited by mowog on 15th Apr, 2010. |
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![]() 7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
14th Apr, 2010 at 09:45:42pm
On 14th Apr, 2010 John said:
Do you have to take material off both surfaces Jim? I would imagine that the bearing material is only so thick? The bearing material is very thin. Ask me how I know
If you know someone with a surface grider with a magnetic table, grinding these down are a piece of cake. On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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![]() 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
2nd May, 2010 at 09:51:33am
We've had the same problem recently.
On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it
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![]() 6966 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
2nd May, 2010 at 11:17:55am
On 14th Apr, 2010 Vegard said:
On 14th Apr, 2010 John said:
Do you have to take material off both surfaces Jim? I would imagine that the bearing material is only so thick? The bearing material is very thin. Ask me how I know
If you know someone with a surface grider with a magnetic table, grinding these down are a piece of cake. why would you use cake for thrusts, |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
7th Oct, 2010 at 06:25:10pm
On 14th Apr, 2010 Sprocket said:
On 14th Apr, 2010 robert said:
On 14th Apr, 2010 Sprocket said:
No they dont Moss do +0.005" You can mix and match the over size thrusts, as one side is only half of the stated total oversive. For example, a +0.003" thrust set will give +0.015" if you use one side along with STD thrusts on the other side. So using a combination of all the available thrusts you should have a selection available similar to the below 0.0015 0.0025 0.003 0.004 0.005 0.015 0.0165 0.0175 0.030 For example, a +0.003" thrust set will give +0.015" if you use one side along with STD thrusts on the other side. im probably being really thick but ...do you mean +0.0015 here colin ? and how do you get all those other options from a choice of 3,5,and 30 thou over ? Yes Robert that is a typo. You can achive all those sizes by mixing the different sizes per side. Going back to my original example (without the obvious mistake) standard thrusts on one side and '+0.003" on the other side is an increase of only 0.0015", it is half of the +0.003" set as you only get +0.003" with the complete set of +0.003" thrusts. I thought this was common knowledge? This is all bollox, and totally wrong!! Sorry chaps
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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![]() 6966 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
7th Oct, 2010 at 06:47:11pm
On 7th Oct, 2010 Sprocket said:
On 14th Apr, 2010 Sprocket said:
On 14th Apr, 2010 robert said:
On 14th Apr, 2010 Sprocket said:
No they dont Moss do +0.005" You can mix and match the over size thrusts, as one side is only half of the stated total oversive. For example, a +0.003" thrust set will give +0.015" if you use one side along with STD thrusts on the other side. So using a combination of all the available thrusts you should have a selection available similar to the below 0.0015 0.0025 0.003 0.004 0.005 0.015 0.0165 0.0175 0.030 For example, a +0.003" thrust set will give +0.015" if you use one side along with STD thrusts on the other side. im probably being really thick but ...do you mean +0.0015 here colin ? and how do you get all those other options from a choice of 3,5,and 30 thou over ? Yes Robert that is a typo. You can achive all those sizes by mixing the different sizes per side. Going back to my original example (without the obvious mistake) standard thrusts on one side and '+0.003" on the other side is an increase of only 0.0015", it is half of the +0.003" set as you only get +0.003" with the complete set of +0.003" thrusts. I thought this was common knowledge? This is all bollox, and totally wrong!! Sorry chaps ![]() |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
7th Oct, 2010 at 07:53:24pm
What can I say On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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