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alpa

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The original brake pedal position is too high. I'd like to align it with the accelerator. I don't like the idea of bending the brake pedal.
Is there a standard way to do that, I'm certainly not the first to wonder.
Thanks

Edited by alpa on 27th May, 2010.

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I have cut and shut a clutch pedal, but I don't think I'd try it on the brake.

I presume you want to heel-and-toe more easily? I don't have a problem with the standard pedal arrangement, maybe some Yoga would help!!

Maybe moving the throttle would be more semsible, there are pedal extensions available. Is your throttle pedal as high as it can be?

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the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
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On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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What year is the car? I think there is some adjustment on the servo models.


alpa

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It's a 89 carb, no servo.
wil, the brake pedal is too high (I had exactly the same on the other '86 Mayfair), I have to lift my leg to brake, it's a loss of time. Of course I also want to heel-and-toe, I can do it today but I'm slow for the reason above.

Edited by alpa on 27th May, 2010.

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Is the clutch the same? If it i made a round piece of allY that was 3/4 thick that raised my master cylinders up effectively lowering my pedals.

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Edited by MikeRace on 27th May, 2010.

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differant pedal box? if it were me i would move the accelerator

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Couldnt you bend the accelrator pedal up so its at the same height? Or am i completly missing the point here??

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alpa

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No guys, the problem is not the gas pedal. I can bend it. But the brake is too high, I can not reach it without raising my leg, that's very slow. Once pressed brake and gas are aligned.

MikeRace: thanks, I'll see what I can do.

Hey, how do you drive that things ? I've got big feet (45 French, 12 US), do you have bigger ones ?

Edited by alpa on 27th May, 2010.

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I reckon the servo brake pedal is different from the non servo pedal, and I dont mean just the clevis pin hole.

Edited by Sprocket on 27th May, 2010.

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So if you lower it then it will be more difficult to heel & tow as the brake pedal will be lower than the throttle when pressed.


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On 27th May, 2010 graemec said:
So if you lower it then it will be more difficult to heel & tow as the brake pedal will be lower than the throttle when pressed.


I was just thinking about that

The non servo pedal is higher as it has to travel more to do the same job as a servo assisted pedal that would travel, perhaps only half as far for the same braking effort.

Edit* I don't have any problems heal and toe shifting with the 'high' pedal

Edited by Sprocket on 27th May, 2010.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 27th May, 2010 graemec said:
So if you lower it then it will be more difficult to heel & tow as the brake pedal will be lower than the throttle when pressed.


As everybody said I can bend the accelerator :) .
The travel of the brake is quite long, that's true. But once disk reached the travel is very short, I don't think it'd hit the floor, today it's quite far from it.

Perhaps I just should make more sport to get the leg faster ?

Edited by alpa on 27th May, 2010.

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Yes, a faster leg and lose the cuban heel.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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Why is it not possible to just cut and weld the pedal to get it where you want it - its what I did in different circumstances.


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Ive just had another thought.

Have you ever had the pedal box out? Im wondering could it be a warn clevis pin moving the brake pedal higher?

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I bent my accelerator pedal, and they are spot on. *wink*

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Aren't brakes for gays?
Then you can bend any shaft you want ...


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True - and they only slow you down, anyway.


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On 28th May, 2010 tadge44 said:
True - and they only slow you down, anyway.


Oh really ? I thought it was a rest plate for my left foot ! That may explain the low mileage I'm getting.

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On 27th May, 2010 Jackman said:
Ive just had another thought.

Have you ever had the pedal box out? Im wondering could it be a warn clevis pin moving the brake pedal higher?


I have one a part, I'll see. Thanks.

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Owen

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I'm not sure where the difference lies, but you can get different pedals.

My first mini (1980 HL) had stupidly high pedals like yours, but my current mini (1983 gayfair) has pedals that are level with the accelerator.

I've had both pedal boxes apart and next to each other and the pedals are deifinitely different.

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On 31st May, 2010 Owen said:
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now thats not fair is it *hehe!*

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how about shortening the master cylinder's rod? That would lower the pedal too and should be easier to weld up than the pedal itself.

Edited by Arnoud on 31st May, 2010.

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On 31st May, 2010 Arnoud said:
how about shortening the master cylinder's rod? That would lower the pedal too and should be easier to weld up than the pedal itself.


i dont think its a case of you cant weld the brake peddle more like would you drive a car with a cut/shut brake peddle?.. i would prefer not too

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