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157 Posts Member #: 6496 Advanced Member Somerset |
6th Jun, 2010 at 05:23:52pm
Is this guy talking b*ll**ks or not?
On 9th Feb, 2010 joeybaby83 said:
yep, ball in a tube affair |
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4307 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
6th Jun, 2010 at 05:38:13pm
I'll be turning my next n/a engine up to 8k without a strap without concern, on the advice of a well respected race engine builder.
Edited by minimole23 on 6th Jun, 2010. On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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![]() 7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
6th Jun, 2010 at 07:45:28pm
I've stopped using straps. Let's see how it goes. On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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49 Posts Member #: 768 Member Fixing my car.... |
6th Jun, 2010 at 07:56:49pm
I totally agree with him, the best thing to do is stud the centre main. I know quite a few people that used to race mini's etc they have all said never fit a centre main strap, just make sure the whole rotating assembly is balanced well. The only engine I have ever had a strap on ended up snapping the crank. |
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157 Posts Member #: 6496 Advanced Member Somerset |
6th Jun, 2010 at 08:10:19pm
On 6th Jun, 2010 modifiedminis said:
I have had a strap on Ooooeeer lol Seriously tho, Do you know a decent supplier for the studs? How do you secure them in the block? And I guess you stud all 3 caps? On 9th Feb, 2010 joeybaby83 said:
yep, ball in a tube affair |
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
6th Jun, 2010 at 08:19:54pm
On 6th Jun, 2010 modifiedminis said:
I totally agree with him, the best thing to do is stud the centre main. I know quite a few people that used to race mini's etc they have all said never fit a centre main strap, just make sure the whole rotating assembly is balanced well. The only engine I have ever had a strap on ended up snapping the crank. Fuck yeah! ![]() On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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458 Posts Member #: 1840 Senior Member Kings Lynn, Norfolk |
6th Jun, 2010 at 09:21:29pm
Where do the studs come from joe? |
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
6th Jun, 2010 at 09:25:30pm
they are minispares uprated S ones,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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157 Posts Member #: 6496 Advanced Member Somerset |
6th Jun, 2010 at 09:33:30pm
How did you have to modify them dude? (if you don't mind me asking) On 9th Feb, 2010 joeybaby83 said:
yep, ball in a tube affair |
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
6th Jun, 2010 at 09:48:40pm
ohhh, errrr, racks brains to remember...
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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![]() 8215 Posts Member #: 90 Post Whore Somewhere around Swindon |
6th Jun, 2010 at 11:37:21pm
its not just a case of fitting the studs though is it? you have to cleaarance the gearbox case as well Crystal Sound Audio said:
Why wolfie...you should have your name as Fuckfaceshithead ! "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."-Douglas Adams |
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157 Posts Member #: 6496 Advanced Member Somerset |
7th Jun, 2010 at 11:09:54am
So what's all the fuss about using straps then? and all this 4 bolt steel cap malarky? Does it actually make any difference?
Edited by Owen on 7th Jun, 2010. On 9th Feb, 2010 joeybaby83 said:
yep, ball in a tube affair |
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![]() 453 Posts Member #: 6449 Senior Member Brisbane, Australia |
7th Jun, 2010 at 11:35:11am
I thought centre main straps were for drivers, who slammed it down the gears to slow down instead of using the brakes. In boost we trust |
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![]() 10022 Posts Member #: 1456 Mongo Barnsley, South Flatcapshire |
7th Jun, 2010 at 11:46:48am
I have strapped both of my engines and the vans engine and used uprated bolts with washers.
If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of. |
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![]() 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
7th Jun, 2010 at 11:54:23am
Going by the description in the link, I can't drive so a strap is necesary in my case. On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it ![]() |
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![]() 7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
7th Jun, 2010 at 12:29:08pm
On 7th Jun, 2010 Owen said:
Just want to make a decision for my engine as i'll be turning it up to about 8,500 revs occasionally. What spec is the engine? On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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4307 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
7th Jun, 2010 at 01:16:42pm
I would personally use a strap if turning to over 8k.
Edited by minimole23 on 7th Jun, 2010. On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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![]() 10022 Posts Member #: 1456 Mongo Barnsley, South Flatcapshire |
7th Jun, 2010 at 01:18:48pm
I've got some of the Finnings CAT bolts from Carl and they are very nice. Everyone that sees them wants them lol. If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of. |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
7th Jun, 2010 at 04:07:21pm
On 7th Jun, 2010 best_stig said:
I thought centre main straps were for drivers, who slammed it down the gears to slow down instead of using the brakes. Surely under full throttle more force is putt on the bottom bearing and the cap, while on over run, the vacuum pulls the crank up into the block and the upper bearing with less force? On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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![]() 10022 Posts Member #: 1456 Mongo Barnsley, South Flatcapshire |
7th Jun, 2010 at 04:09:05pm
Perhaps stig is referring more to an over-rev situation causing the crank to flex Sprock? If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of. |
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157 Posts Member #: 6496 Advanced Member Somerset |
7th Jun, 2010 at 10:46:20pm
N/A
On 7th Jun, 2010 Vegard said:
What spec is the engine? On 9th Feb, 2010 joeybaby83 said:
yep, ball in a tube affair |
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![]() 453 Posts Member #: 6449 Senior Member Brisbane, Australia |
8th Jun, 2010 at 06:10:14am
On 7th Jun, 2010 Sprocket said:
On 7th Jun, 2010 best_stig said:
I thought centre main straps were for drivers, who slammed it down the gears to slow down instead of using the brakes. Surely under full throttle more force is putt on the bottom bearing and the cap, while on over run, the vacuum pulls the crank up into the block and the upper bearing with less force? John said what i was meaning to say. Id think that the loadings would be equivalent throughout the rotation of the crank. While 2 pistons are going up, the other 2 are going down. So theres a lot of forces acting there at all different directions. And when you use the gears and over rev the engine its making the whole lot worse. But im happy to be corrected. In boost we trust |
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Forum Mod ![]() 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
8th Jun, 2010 at 06:20:50am
On 7th Jun, 2010 Owen said:
N/A 1430cc, 320 cam, weber 45, MED hi lift rockers, megajolt etc On 7th Jun, 2010 Vegard said: What spec is the engine? I wouldnt run a long stroke over 8,000 personnally. I seriously doubt it! |
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