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Forum Mod ![]() 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
9th Jun, 2010 at 07:12:08pm
Just built up a front hub with taper roller bearing torqued at 100lb ft with LM grease and another with ball type bearing torqued at 35 lb ft with Redline CV2 grease.
Edited by paul wiginton on 9th Jun, 2010. I seriously doubt it! |
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Site Admin ![]() 15300 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
9th Jun, 2010 at 07:15:38pm
The one you get the grease out of and put oil in
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
9th Jun, 2010 at 07:15:44pm
rear hubs? On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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Forum Mod ![]() 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
9th Jun, 2010 at 07:19:28pm
On 9th Jun, 2010 mini13 said:
rear hubs? Front Edited by paul wiginton on 9th Jun, 2010. I seriously doubt it! |
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9th Jun, 2010 at 07:43:03pm
Redline CV2 grease is very sticky from memory for a fair test you should use the same grease for comparison
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Forum Mod ![]() 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
9th Jun, 2010 at 07:44:24pm
On 9th Jun, 2010 SidewaysGTM said:
Redline CV2 grease is very sticky from memory for a fair test you should use the same grease for comparison West I was lead to believe the CV2 should be slippier I seriously doubt it! |
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9th Jun, 2010 at 09:13:50pm
Mr Austin probably uses KY Jelly 1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
9th Jun, 2010 at 09:29:01pm
On 9th Jun, 2010 paul wiginton said:
Who said ball type wheelbearings had less friction? You did. I distinctly remember it over a cup of tea in your garage, even the wife went out and bought some for her Fiat after she heard! Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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Forum Mod ![]() 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
9th Jun, 2010 at 09:35:10pm
On 9th Jun, 2010 wil_h said:
On 9th Jun, 2010 paul wiginton said:
Who said ball type wheelbearings had less friction? You did. I distinctly remember it over a cup of tea in your garage, even the wife went out and bought some for her Fiat after she heard! Some twat told me though Edit; Actually it might have been Calver Edited by paul wiginton on 9th Jun, 2010. I seriously doubt it! |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
9th Jun, 2010 at 09:55:53pm
On 9th Jun, 2010 paul wiginton said:
On 9th Jun, 2010 wil_h said:
On 9th Jun, 2010 paul wiginton said:
Who said ball type wheelbearings had less friction? You did. I distinctly remember it over a cup of tea in your garage, even the wife went out and bought some for her Fiat after she heard! Some twat told me though Edit; Actually it might have been Calver Well he is a twat! Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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9th Jun, 2010 at 10:32:12pm
On 9th Jun, 2010 paul wiginton said:
Just built up a front hub with taper roller bearing torqued at 100lb ft with LM grease and another with ball type bearing torqued at 35 lb ft with Redline CV2 grease. Which one should be easier to turn? Paul Torque used is irrelevant. The taper at that torque will have a spacer in the middle, hence so tight. Tapers with no spacer are literally just nipped up. I'd say taper bearing easier to turn. 9.85 @ 145mph
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9th Jun, 2010 at 10:34:46pm
Where do you get the 100ftlb and 35ftlb values from? On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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![]() 690 Posts Member #: 1851 Post Whore Woolavington, Zummerzet |
9th Jun, 2010 at 11:59:58pm
I thought the torque setting for a ball bearing hub was 60lb/ft - it was last week when I did a pair of drum hubs.
Metric is for people who can't do fractions. |
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Forum Mod ![]() 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
10th Jun, 2010 at 06:06:20am
If I torqued the ball to 60 lb it would hardly turn, 30-35 it would. The 100lb for the taper is all I could generate holding it in a vice before it started to slip. I seriously doubt it! |
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784 Posts Member #: 912 Post Whore North Yorkshire |
10th Jun, 2010 at 08:45:38am
Does the grease not start to become fluid until its up to working temp..?
Edited by Si P on 10th Jun, 2010. I drill holes in everything..! |
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Forum Mod ![]() 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
10th Jun, 2010 at 05:21:24pm
Whats a Metro torque setting out of curiosity? they have balls as standard I seriously doubt it! |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
10th Jun, 2010 at 05:21:44pm
Grease is basicaly oil with thickners such as clay or chalk (the most simplest of grease). The thickners prevent the oil squeezing out of the bearings at supersonic speeds On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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10th Jun, 2010 at 06:02:52pm
On 10th Jun, 2010 paul wiginton said:
Whats a Metro torque setting out of curiosity? they have balls as standard The red book of lies says 75lbft On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it
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10th Jun, 2010 at 06:10:22pm
On 10th Jun, 2010 Sprocket said:
Grease is basicaly oil with thickners such as clay or chalk (the most simplest of grease). The thickners prevent the oil squeezing out of the bearings at supersonic speeds ![]() but wouldnt it then sound like a straighcut gearbox if it was going supersonic? ![]()
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
10th Jun, 2010 at 06:18:55pm
On 10th Jun, 2010 mini93 said:
On 10th Jun, 2010 Sprocket said:
Grease is basicaly oil with thickners such as clay or chalk (the most simplest of grease). The thickners prevent the oil squeezing out of the bearings at supersonic speeds ![]() but wouldnt it then sound like a straighcut gearbox if it was going supersonic? ![]() ![]() No because like I said, the thickners 'prevent' the grease squeezing out at supersonic speed. In other words, it never reaches supersonic speed, therefore, cannot sound like straight cut gears
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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![]() 834 Posts Member #: 2017 Post Whore Warwick. |
10th Jun, 2010 at 06:24:46pm
ah of course, perhaps ill read next time :p should start telling people to put oil into their bearings if they want the noise for cheap haha David. |
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10th Jun, 2010 at 08:30:02pm
On 9th Jun, 2010 wil_h said: On 9th Jun, 2010 paul wiginton said:
Who said ball type wheelbearings had less friction? Didn't Richard Longman say in some article that he used these type of bearings in his Clubman touring car as they had less drag? Edited by dazibee on 10th Jun, 2010. |
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Forum Mod ![]() 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
10th Jun, 2010 at 08:56:29pm
On 10th Jun, 2010 dazibee said: On 9th Jun, 2010 wil_h said:
On 9th Jun, 2010 paul wiginton said:
Who said ball type wheelbearings had less friction? Didn't Richard Longman say in some article that he used these type of bearings in his Clubman touring car as they had less drag? And guaging from his success he is not a twat I seriously doubt it! |
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Forum Mod ![]() 5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
12th Jun, 2010 at 02:29:28pm
Been doing lots of experimenting with different bearings, different greases, different amounts of grease and oil, plus reading up on KAD hubs where the shoulder inside the hub is wider so that the bearings are no longer pre loaded.
I seriously doubt it! |
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
12th Jun, 2010 at 04:18:40pm
the shoulder would need to be narrower to reduce the preload,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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, id say roller, but i doubt the difference will be huge. 




