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MadMatt

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just a note to let you all know that this is now officially happening.

this first one is turning out at 1435cc, but we can go far bigger, up to 1784cc if anyone wants to, but no idea how strong that size will be at this stage,,, ill make one later on & see how long it lasts *smiley*

However, we have made a few mistakes on the first block but the 2nd one is now well under way with those things corrected (hopefully)

i`ll get you all some pics & a video once we have it all together & running

there are some issues with slight mods needed on the front end of the gearbox casing, (cutting & welding fixes that) & other things like external water & oil pumps being needed, plus a few other fiddly things but all up it`s a worker

at a later stage we may make some custom con-rods & create a crank "Cradle" for it, but for now we`ve just made it with 5 separate main caps, & std issue off the shelf motorbike con rods

sorry no more details at this stage, just have to wait till it`s a runner,,, altho it`s probably not too hard to figure out being the guts of it is just motorbike parts... nothing new really.

not cheap tho *frown*

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Matt

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pics? *happy*

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I am guessing a cnc block with linners *Clapping*

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I know this is quite an interesting project, but I don't see the point. It's not eligable for any motorsport (not in the UK anyway).

Arguments such as 'you should have done this instead' are pointless, but I do think there are more likely better ways to achieve the same result.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


Brett

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if i was to change block it would be to a vtec turbo i bet it would be cheaper too but everyone has different opinions
i dont see the engine as a weak point, i would rather put a modern box on a mini engine but then i wouldnt do that for my first point
however i always like out side of the box ideas and bling bling cad cnc always goes down a treat*happy**happy*

Edited by Brett on 10th Sep, 2010.

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John

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Yeah to me this is a solution for a problem that doesn't really exist.

If you want more power than a 3 main a-series can produce stick a more modern motor in there.

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


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On 10th Sep, 2010 John said:

If you want more power than a 3 main a-series can produce stick a more modern motor in there.


A 5 main alloy block modern motor by some chance?

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John

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Yes something off the shelf where components are readily available and more importantly "cheap"

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


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Not very sunny swanage

surely its being done because he can??

i mean in all honesty, these days a mini is a fairly average car, with a really rather old engine. we all spend thousands on making them solid and better when a newer car would be faster, better, more reliable, but we do it because we like them and we can!!

I'm building a k headed engine, im doing the whole lot myself and it will cost me very little (relatively), but for the same sort of money i could put a modern all alloy engine in there which would make simmilar horse power and be a whole shit load more reliable.... im doing it becasue i enjoy the challenge, not for any other reason.....

in case anyone is thinking im whinging about minis, im not, ive got loads of stupid inpractical stuff and i love it all because of that!!! (think mini, a35, vw split etc...... none are really practical, but i smile when i drive them!!)

Its just about pushing boundries because we (or in this case mat) can imho.....

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I like this. Great stuff :)

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



wil_h

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I feel I need to clarify what I have started here. I like the project, basically a bike engine on a mini gearbox.

I just want to understand the rational behind spending the money. If it's because 'we wanted to' then fine, but that's not generally how I approach engineering.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


MadMatt

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all soooooo good comments guys,,, I wanted to quote all of you , so thanks,,,

& yes it really is only for 2 reasons,,, one-> cause i can,,, & 2-> cause """I""" want it (want it bad)

it`s not for "every-body",,, i (out of everyone) know that,,, knew that before i even started actually,,, never even considered "This-One" to be for anyone else but me,,, but the fact is that it may well be a possibility for "some-others" , if they`re rich enough & dumb enough to do give it a hit *smiley*

crickey if i was doing it for money then i`d be sadly mistaken & definately not right in the head

i just want to ,,, & i reckon it will be a ball-tearer (Aussie slang for "really good")

I`d really be quite happy if all the homework i`ve done comes to a 180+hp, lightweight, reliable, smooth, low center of gravity, pump-fuel compatible, road engine that tears the crap out of anyone else on the track at the same time,,, well that`d be nice

just bung a lung on there if you wanted shit-loads more too *smiley*

i`d like to be able to take my mum shopping in the thing tho (if she was still alive) & for her to comment on how nice, smooth & quiet it was

lets wait & see

Oh,,, &,,,, hee hee,,, i know some "Other" people are looking at doing this very same (similar) thing right now

so stay tuned,,, it`s not just me in this game now (again) *smiley*

again , it`s nothing new really,,, think Manx & the lotus/ford engine conversions... the H1 hyabusa V8,,, etc etc etc... & everything in between & some--- >nothing is really "new" anymore, they`re all just a modification of the same old theme really, just using more updated, quality, design, items & machining.

i`ll grab you all a pic of the F`ukd up first block shortly, just as a teaser *smiley*

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MadMatt

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On 10th Sep, 2010 wil_h said:

If it's because 'we wanted to' then fine, but that's not generally how I approach engineering.


Wil,,, you Nailed it really---> yep,,, i just "Wanted to"

But,,, the actual engineering of it is not the approach nor so much the reason,,, it`s the fact that it is simply a damn good idea *smiley*

Edited by MadMatt on 10th Sep, 2010.

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MadMatt

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On 10th Sep, 2010 John said:
Yeah to me this is a solution for a problem that doesn't really exist.

If you want more power than a 3 main a-series can produce stick a more modern motor in there.


that`s the funny part John... this is pretty damn modern *smiley*

& in response to your other comment on the cost,,, yeah well it`s not cheap,,, no,,, you got me there ,,, oops ,,, my bad *smiley* but you get that in the big city

but i`m not "Making" everything... the main caps are off the shelf cheap,,, the rods are actually surprisingly cheap & available off the shelf, (damn people are actually throwing them away) the crank & the lower block half are the 2 main bits i`m making (plus a few fiddly bits) the rest is just simply buy it all from the bike wreckers (Breaking yards)

& yes it`s not "easy" but nor was building the great wall of china, or the erecting piramids (one would presume),,, once upon a time talking to someone across the world meant walking-or-swimming there to say hi, now it`s all just a quick Clit ,,, er,,, ar ,,, "click" away *smiley*

i just simply like lightweight, powerful, smooth, quiet, reliable mini engines & i`d like to think that i`m one of those who (at least) try to aspire to making a better mini engine Package

i`ve been spoilt i think,,, my buggy -->



has made me "re-think" my place on earth , my "reason" for being here *smiley*

I really don`t know if any of you guys can imagine how fast my buggy is,,, truely!!!!!!!!!,,, think about it for a minute will you please????? It`s stupic fast!!! & if i sound like i`m bragging,,, well i`m sorry, cause i don`t mean too,,,, what i am trying to get across is that "Performance" comes from a "Quality Package" & most of the jap engine conversions & most of the A-series mini power units just are not up to the level that i want to be,,, we (mini owners) are just not quite up to par with late model technology,,, even tho a whole heap of us "THINK" we are with all these late model jap transplants & turbo injection & such

well,,, i`ve found a way ( i believe) that we can have our cake, & eat it too

costly,,,, yes

time consuming,,, yes

mentally , physically, emotionally & financially draining.... of course

so was all the sailing trips out to Australia from the motha land attempting to get rid of all the convicts... *smiley* i for one am damn glad they gave that a good go *smiley*



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IMO great!


i just simply like lightweight, powerful, smooth, quiet, reliable mini engines & i`d like to think that i`m one of those who (at least) try to aspire to making a better mini engine Package

its the extra cc that intrests me .... is the engine over square ?

have you any PICs of your work todate ?






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Go for it I say, if it works out maybe we will all want one. I expect people told the guys who pioneered Imp & Ford blocks on a mini box and crossflow and BMW head conversions that they were wasting their time and money too...
Having said that I wish someone first of all could invent a bullit proof helical 5 speed gearset that fits inside in a mini casing

Edited by dazibee on 10th Sep, 2010.


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Great to hear you decided to go for it, very interested to see how it turns out and what figures it makes, sorry if i missed it but what stroke and bore did you go for in the end?


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i like this, but... if were going this far, why not go the whole hog and put a reliable sequential box 6 speed box in there?

if the engine is going to be tip top and modern, why not go the same way with the box?

then its just a complete modern replacement for the mini engine, no throwbacks...

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A novel and great idea no doubt.


But what gearbox does it use ? I'd think that area more important.

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well done matt ,and thanks for sharing , fascinating to see what you come up with ,really really exciting and interesting .

Edited by robert on 11th Sep, 2010.

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM


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sorry Robert *tongue*


On 11th Sep, 2010 robert said:
well done matt ,and thanks for sharing , fascinating to see what you come up with ,really really exciting and interesting .


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hahahaha no no fab ,that was genuine enthusiasm .(i know its not fashionable in france )*tongue*

Edited by robert on 12th Sep, 2010.

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM


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i think this is interesting stuff not sure if theres a market for it but interesting all the same

look forward to the updates

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Just think a turbo version in a a35 1600cc if its possible and rear wheel drive bloody superb

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