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boostjunkie

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Hi looking for some advice on bulkhead modificaions fot the std mini/metro turbo engine to comfortably run in my mini, my worry is this issue with the iva test on bulkhead mods?

I have been going through lots of old posts but most the photos have gone and also conflicting advice so hope you dont mind me asking.

As you guys are the experts what and where do i get the best buckhead box from, i would like to make it look as standard as possible also, from what i have read it needs to be sloped at the base to stop crud build up and needs to be angled for the actuator but as i havent got my engine yet and want to make the mods before i paint the shell im in desperate need for help and advice, so all links photos and advice welcome.*happy*

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apbellamy

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Jason G might be able to help you supplying a bulkhead box. he makes nice ones

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

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don't worry about iva's for now, if people stop talking about it, it should get forgotten about. if its only a bulkhead box then you'll be fine, but make sure its welded in properly to put the strength back in.


boostjunkie

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Asked on Tmf just get the iva blah coming up can't see the issue if it's welded in correctly

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haimesyboi

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Has anyone ever even bothered with a iva?
make sure it is seam welded by someone that knows what there doing and youll be fine.


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Why does the car need sn IVA?

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boostjunkie

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What ever the ERA turbo mini bulkhead mods have been will be safe enough to use now, so need to get hunting for some info on them

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In theory, if you follow the letter of the requirement, you will require an IVA. But the rules were written a bit craply and this type of mod is not exactly what they are trying to stop.

Also as the ERA used a similar mod, it could be considered a standard item, in my eyes.

I think the IVA is a good idea and should stop some propper shit getting on the roads.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


boostjunkie

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agreed, does jason g have a website?

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boostjunkie

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ERAturbo.com quote "The Bulkhead at the rear of the engine incorporates a ‘turbo box' to provide room for the body of the turbocharger. This item was fitted during conversion from the ‘City and consists of a heavy gauge steel enclosure welded into position in the front bulkhead. Its top edge is located flush with the top surface of the box-section and a heavy gauge steel plate forms a new top section to the cross-member. Because of the intense heat generated by the turbo, the whole bulkhead area to its rear, including the inside surface of the turbo box, is covered with aluminium faced, heat resisting fabric. Ideally, this material should be in good condition. It is readily available but very expensive to replace. Because this area is covered, it can trap any rainwater running into the engine bay from the rear of the bonnet. In consequence the metal forming the turbo box can be heavily rusted and it has been known to rust through, despite the heavy gauge metal. Careful prodding in this area with a suitable screwdriver, without damaging the heat resistant fabric, will show up any weakness in the metal. "

as long as modifications are strong safe and done in the correct manner should a test be required the modifications will be alright.

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rosco454

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On 16th Oct, 2010 wil_h said:


I think the IVA is a good idea and should stop some propper shit getting on the roads.


I agree to be honest.Just look at the tread from a while back with that black homebuilt "thing" at the test station to see what people are trying to get onto the road.

However it really gets on my tits when certain tossers on other forums bang on about an iva for a turbo box/weber box etc.

Cheers Ross.

On 20th Jan, 2011 apbellamy said:

I have a bit of a fetish for tools


Rod S

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I agree with Wil and Ross - the IVA is a good idea in principle but there is absolutely no clear rules on when it is required instead of an MOT in our kind of cases.

The rules are clear enough if you are building something like a kit car (post '95) but is totally unclear as to what degree of modifications invoke IVA for a modified manufacturer's vehicle.

I've read and re-read the rules several times and still can't find any clarity.

However, the MOT Testers Manual is littered with phrases like "deliberate modification which significantly reduces the original strength, excessive corrosion, severe distortion, a fracture or an inadequate repair of a load bearing member or its supporting structure" under the "reasons for failure" column so as far as I'm concerned it is up to the MOT tester to decide whether a deliberate modification is unsafe......

I have yet to find out with mine :)

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Jason G

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I think you have to be more careful doing bulkhead mods with modern cars that have no front subframe to be honest.
As others have said, always seam weld any mods.

On 19th Jan, 2010 wil_h said:
I would start the furthest place from the finish.


On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
I feel all special knowing that I've given your mum my wood.


Been neglecting Turbo'd 'A' series..............


boostjunkie

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will do *wink* Jason apbellamy mentioned you may be the man in the know with regards to supply of a high quality bulkhead box....?

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Jason G

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all sold out I'm afraid. :(

Problably be in the new year I'll have some more.

On 19th Jan, 2010 wil_h said:
I would start the furthest place from the finish.


On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
I feel all special knowing that I've given your mum my wood.


Been neglecting Turbo'd 'A' series..............

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