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Paul S

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Found this. Thought I would share it here.



Some interesting points.

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."


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Thanks.
The straight conical diffuser trick was new to me.

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Joe C

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Interesting,

seems to confirm what I thought and/or read elsewhere,

interestingly on my VNT the turbine extucer is 45mm, this tapers out to about 49mm at the downpipe flange, cunningly I have matched the down pipe flange to this and continued the taper in the flange to match the 2" down pipe o there is a nice 8ish degree taper from 45-52mm.

not very clear in this pic but the taper is there...


On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

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Interesting read, and that satisfies my decision to run a 2.25" downpipe and system which is pretty much the ID of the turbine outlet on the GT17. we know the bigger exhaust gives better results from Roberts experience with his side pipe at the dyno shoot out. The effortI also put in to my manifold looks like it might be worth something too.

Only real way to find out is get the thing running lol.

:)

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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i Designed and made my LARGE! single exhaust on the Benross machine made severall years ago

they do work.....lol






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It's as simple as bigger is better, especially close to the turbocharger itself.

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ive opted for a 2" downpipe which imidiatly goes three inch from there backward.

On 17th Feb, 2011 apbellamy said:
I popped my first one out the other day...


apbellamy

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It made me thing that the 1.75" exhaust on the van will start to be a restriction if/when we push for more power. I reckon a home brew 2" is on the cards

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


Joe C

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side pipe ala challenge cars?


On 6th Nov, 2010 apbellamy said:
It made me thing that the 1.75" exhaust on the van will start to be a restriction if/when we push for more power. I reckon a home brew 2" is on the cards

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



John

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You got it!

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On 5th Nov, 2010 Rick.SPI said:
ive opted for a 2" downpipe which imidiatly goes three inch from there backward.


A 3" downpipe then dropping to 2" would make more sense.


Bigger is better as close to the turbo as possible for as long as possible.

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On 6th Nov, 2010 Joe C said:
side pipe ala challenge cars?
On 6th Nov, 2010 apbellamy said:
It made me thing that the 1.75" exhaust on the van will start to be a restriction if/when we push for more power. I reckon a home brew 2" is on the cards

2" from the turbo back with a smallish free flow box towards the rear of the tunnel and a nice shiny round end popping out through the passenger side sill.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


Paul S

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Upstream of the turbo, it's a different matter altogether:

"For turbo cars, you throw all that out the window. You want the exhaust velocity to be high upstream of the turbine (i.e. in the header). You'll notice that primaries of turbo headers are smaller diameter than those of an n/a car of two-thirds the horsepower. The idea is to get the exhaust velocity up quickly, to get the turbo spooling as early as possible. Here, getting the boost up early is a much more effective way to torque than playing with tuned primary lengths and scavenging. The scavenging effects are small compared to what you'd get if you just got boost sooner instead. You have a turbo; you want boost. Just don't go so small on the header's primary diameter that you choke off the high end."

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."


Joe C

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On 6th Nov, 2010 Paul S said:
Upstream of the turbo, it's a different matter altogether:

"For turbo cars, you throw all that out the window. You want the exhaust velocity to be high upstream of the turbine (i.e. in the header). You'll notice that primaries of turbo headers are smaller diameter than those of an n/a car of two-thirds the horsepower. The idea is to get the exhaust velocity up quickly, to get the turbo spooling as early as possible. Here, getting the boost up early is a much more effective way to torque than playing with tuned primary lengths and scavenging. The scavenging effects are small compared to what you'd get if you just got boost sooner instead. You have a turbo; you want boost. Just don't go so small on the header's primary diameter that you choke off the high end."




I would read that as the primarys being smaller than a tuned N/A car rather than an production car,



On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



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I have run my own design of 2.5" onto a 4 1/4" oval for many years now always thought the playmini downpipe was one of the choke points and that proves my thinking correct.

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