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Rod S

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A small flash and a load bang from the back of my TV (Pioneer 3rd generation plasma) last night.....

Off the wall and back off this morning, PSU board unscrewed as the noise was just like the electrolytics going in a PC power supply.



Lots of big electrolytics but nothing wrong with any of them, instead two small resistors blown (only one photo'd)



Quick check on the web says one is a common failure but often takes out other components.......

New PSU board - £174 inc VAT and delivery (special order).

So I though that's a good excuse to finally get a Kuro.

...... only to find out Pioneer have dropped out of the high end plasma market and sold their technology rights to Panasonic *frown*

So I've just ordered the Panasonic "equivilant" (I doubt it will be any near as good) and also a paid for download of the Pioneer service manual and parts list as I'll try changing the resistors on this one but they are too badly charred to read the colour codes off them with any certainty.....

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???


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I've got a 42" Kuro. Bloody good TV!

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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I can't believe Pioneer have sold off their tech rights! That means any Kuros left are going to command an even bigger price tag now :(

Have a go at fixing it Rod, hopefully it will just be those two resistors that need replacing.


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I wouldn't of thought a load bang would equate to 2 tiny resistors? sure none of the capacitors are open circuit?
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Rod S

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On 19th Nov, 2010 ministef1 said:
I wouldn't of thought a load bang would equate to 2 tiny resistors? sure none of the capacitors are open circuit?
stef


Stef,
Haven't checked the capacitors with my trusty DVM yet but visually they are all perfect - I've seen plenty of PC PSUs with failed ones that went with a bang and it's allways been obvious if it was a capacitor.

According to my research, those resistors are a common failure on early boards - despite their size they are high power wire wound ones, very low resistance (0.1 and 0.47 Ohm) running at high voltages as current limiters to a couple of FETS.

So I've checked and one of the FETs is failed (dead short) - apparently this is the usual failure mode, FET goes dead short and takes out the resistors and the flash/bang is quite normal......

I've managed to track down a supply of new boards at £127 inc. (and available off the shelf, not special order) but I'm going to try swapping out the resistors and FETs first.....

After building Megasquirts, wideband controllers, display units etc for the Mini, this will be easy :)

Worst I can do is blow up the board completely (one person who posted on the web failed to spot one of the FETs was shorted and blew not only his new resistors to bits but blew several other components off the board too......)

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???


mcalvert39

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Restors do go with a fair pop, so do small caps, I reckon if one of those big buggers blew it would put a new air vent in the back of your telly.


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for some reason big caps dont go as well as you'd hope, the tend to whoosh rather than bang, an spunk their electrolite all over the place...

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

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mcalvert39

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scared the crap outta me when a small one blew on the video card in my pc. I remember seeing the huge ones in the back of old tv's.


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before teh caps bang though theres usually a visual deformation of there "cap" (excuse the pun) or oosing of electrolyte from underneath. if ther just shunts for the fet's it stands to reason that the FET(s) failed first. hope its an easy fix!

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