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Chris Dillow

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Just found this thought some be interested?

http://www.swiftune.com/NewsArticle/80/dc5...g-a-series.aspx


hazpalmer

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wonder what the price is then


Chris Dillow

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Alot *surprised*

Edited by Chris Dillow on 13th Jan, 2011.


Joe C

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I'm guessing if you have to ask..... you cant afford it! lol

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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No pics yet! Would be interesting to see some. *oh well*

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pics or it isnt real

9.85 @ 145mph
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speed didn't kill me, but taxation probably will


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On 13th Jan, 2011 Joe C said:
I'm guessing if you have to ask..... you cant afford it! lol


not on my wage just yet, maybe when im a tiffy


almichie

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I'm wondering how they mount the 4th and 5th bearing?

Unless they don't, and just counter balance but i would think you'd get some flex then.

Be interesting to see a picture

On 7th Nov, 2011 apbellamy said:
Shaft seems nice and snug


On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
no no no no, you need more boost! you can never ever come on here and say I have enough boost, that's just silly.


On 29th Mar, 2010 Star Mag said:
these give no problems with good head


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the extra bearings could easily be 'bolted' into the crank case of the block from the sides. Consider that the original three bearings take for arguments sake 33% of the load. Now fit two extra bearings, they all now carry only 20% load. That is more than half the load the original bearings deal with.

I'm not sure how the cam would work around this though.

Edited by Sprocket on 13th Jan, 2011.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


stevieturbo

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I'd suspect the extra journals simply float ?

If everything is designed and balanced up properly, then I guess they dont need support. The crank is likely over engineered anyway

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On 13th Jan, 2011 stevieturbo said:
pics or it isnt real


They certainly are real.
The extra main pins are floating just so the counterweight can be increased and to line the big ends with the bores better

I seriously doubt it!


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I wonder if they had this crank when the Dart was originally raced in 66 *wink*

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



BENROSS

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they have gone about a slight! problem and over engineered it, thay would be better off using the money and making a larger displacement block with crank and rods........... come on Mr swift tune

theres a market for sure in that






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On 13th Jan, 2011 Vegard said:
I wonder if they had this crank when the Dart was originally raced in 66 *wink*


I was wandering that.

Realisticly that shouldnt be eligible to race then should it. Then again an sure nick has found a loop hole that will allow it otherwise it would be pointless.

Rick


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Nick only goes for what is allowed in regs, a larger displacement block isnt an A series anymore, a new crank in a standard block is still as a series as a different profile cam, rocker ratio or straight cut gearset.
Can of worms again?

I seriously doubt it!


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Flexible rules?

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


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not great because i dont have scanning ability


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So are the 2 extra journals actualy bearing surfaces then or simply floating? says in the article is uses 5 main bearings or this just a terminoligy thing and im being a picky bastard? interesting non the less

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Look at the picture Brett posted. It's a crank designed like a 5 mains one, but wears only three. For improofed counter baöancing. I think the '5 main bearings' sentence is just a bit missleading :)

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[quote=hazpalmer,13th Jan, 2011
not on my wage just yet, maybe when im a tiffy[/quote]

Even then I wouldn't hold your breath!

So, forgive me if this is a stupid question, but given the revs which they're talking about (8000+), what advantage are we talking about over a well prepped steel crank and rods (given the likely cost) - reliability and life expectancy in a race application presumably?
If the major selling point were the smoothness that it mentions I'd have to question VFM.


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thats the same arrow crank that MED are selling IMO

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So basically they have developed a new crank

1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.


Fibreglass Parts? - http://www.tdkracing.co.uk/
Split Rims? - http://www.force-racing.co.uk/


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Looks clever.

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


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a well prepped high reving 'normal' configuration crank will suffer from torsional vibration as a result of the lack of propper counter balancing, which could mean failure of the bearings or the crank itself, not to mention the loss of power as a result of the vibration itself.

If you ever get a chance to look at the super high reving motor bike cranks, you can clearly see that they are far from light, since they have excellent counter balancing which is one thing that allows them to rev to 16k+

Heavy counter balanced crank and super light flywheel is the way to go

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 14th Jan, 2011 wolfie said:
thats the same arrow crank that MED are selling IMO


Yes sounds the same as the one MED supply, apparently not much extra cost involved in relation to the gain.

Edited by t3gav on 14th Jan, 2011.

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