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wil_h

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So my Sprint has been a bitch to drive for ages. The fuelling has been all over the place and it's had a missfire on cruise.

I've tried lots of things but no change. today in a desperate attemp to find the problem (and thinking that cruise was the worst condition) I blocked the part throttle lean off pipe.

It's like a new car. fuelling spot on, propper boost, lovely jubblie.

And to add the this I found my I-pod while scrabbling around trying to find the screwdrive I keep in the car for tinkering.

Anyone else had issues with the part throttle lean off not working. The link pipe was in perfect condition btw.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph



On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


Johnny

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my lean off is blocked but its misfiring at cruise, its going down to 11.5 afr and it never used to. so i might connect it back up and see how it goes.


apbellamy

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That's why we have a pair of small maul grips in the van's door pocket. Instant part throttle lean of clamp *smiley*

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


John

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^ Not anymore they are back in my toolbox. I blanked the hoses off before RR day.

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


stevieturbo

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On 8th Feb, 2011 wil_h said:
So my Sprint has been a bitch to drive for ages. The fuelling has been all over the place and it's had a missfire on cruise.

I've tried lots of things but no change. today in a desperate attemp to find the problem (and thinking that cruise was the worst condition) I blocked the part throttle lean off pipe.

It's like a new car. fuelling spot on, propper boost, lovely jubblie.

And to add the this I found my I-pod while scrabbling around trying to find the screwdrive I keep in the car for tinkering.

Anyone else had issues with the part throttle lean off not working. The link pipe was in perfect condition btw.


Possibly the drilling from plenum to chamber is blocked or something.

9.85 @ 145mph
202mph standing mile
speed didn't kill me, but taxation probably will


apbellamy

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On 8th Feb, 2011 John said:
^ Not anymore they are back in my toolbox. I blanked the hoses off before RR day.


BAC! They're mine!

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


Kean

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I had the exact same issue and solution with mine Wil. Nice easy fix for a change


Coupe

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Mine would never run right with the part throttle lean off. The moment it was blocked off it ran perfectly.

On 15th Jul, 2009 fastcarl said:
a breif struggle ensued but Will emerged the victor with a pair of undies in his possesion


On 21st Sep, 2009 apbellamy said:
No, but you did chuck your guts up over my front gate the Saturday before! You even managed to get a bit in your arm pit...


John

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On 8th Feb, 2011 apbellamy said:
On 8th Feb, 2011 John said:
^ Not anymore they are back in my toolbox. I blanked the hoses off before RR day.


BAC! They're mine!


Incorrect. I know you own pretty much every set of grips in the northern hemisphere but these ones actually came from my house when I spent the weekend tuning the van pre-avon last year.

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


BENROSS

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its hard to get the mixture spot on using the lean off pipe, with some engine configurations its all but a pain to sort






wintersurferuk

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mines blocked off but I seem to be going through petrol, does run well but the fuel i go through is silly.

next rr im going to im going to bring a new nedle and try to get it setup with it.


Joe C

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Carlos Fandango

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How about adding an aquarium valve inline so the part lean off is adjustable,

I'm thinking a solenoid cvould be added in line so you can get it set up for power with the lean of pipe blocked, then trim it for cruise with the Aquarium valve, you can then switch between blocked and not, perhape even add a throttle switch so when you floor it, it switched the pipe to blocked off.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



John

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^ I believe robert has a solenoid on his.

But good thinking Joe! Might be a good way to eek a few more MPG out.

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


Joe C

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Carlos Fandango

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You mean he dosent just push the choke in lol.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



wil_h

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If it worked then a solenoid would be a good idea.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph



On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


metroturbo

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If you have megajolt or similar you could easily control the solenoid based on manifold pressure - vacuum open, boost closed.


stevieturbo

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Really cant see why it's causing problems.

What does it do ? Does it make it go too lean, or rich ?

9.85 @ 145mph
202mph standing mile
speed didn't kill me, but taxation probably will


wil_h

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It goes all over, completly inconsistant AFR. On cruise it just backfires, then fuelling stabilises then does it again.

I agree, how can it mack such a differance. Hence why it took me months to even try blocking it.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph



On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


mcalvert39

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maybe vacuum pulses in the lean off pipe are causing a problem. Or just a sticking valve?


theoneeyedlizard

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Mines been blocked for ages. Never ran nicely beforehand.

Some sort of control would be good though. My part throttle afr is around 10:1 which is higher than wot.

Edited by theoneeyedlizard on 11th Feb, 2011.

In the 13's at last!.. Just


stevieturbo

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On 9th Feb, 2011 wil_h said:
It goes all over, completly inconsistant AFR. On cruise it just backfires, then fuelling stabilises then does it again.

I agree, how can it mack such a differance. Hence why it took me months to even try blocking it.


Obviously it's a long time ago. And I had no plenum restrictor.

But I never had any issues, and I always had the lean pipe installed. That said, there were no such thing as widebands back then, so n idea what AFR's were actually like.
But it wasnt particularly hard on fuel or anything.

I guess whether it is installed or not hardly matters as long as the end result is the car diving nicely.

But for the above post saying he is seeing 10.0:1 AFR on cruise, that is ridiculous. That is a major problem that needs sorting. Whether by lean off pipe or a proper needle to suit.

9.85 @ 145mph
202mph standing mile
speed didn't kill me, but taxation probably will


T3Tone

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Really seems to differ alot with different configurations, some have fueling troubles where it lean off pipe needs optimising or removing, others (myself included) dont have any trouble with it. Tested mine on the rollers did not make any difference weather it was blocked or not.

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wil_h

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Well I have had 4 turbo engines so far and this is the only one that I've had issues with.

I'd rather run it, but it is obviously not right. When I have time I'll whip the carb off and have a nosey.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph



On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


T3Tone

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You could try putting a restrictor in the lean off pipe, as per turbo phils site......
http://www.turbo-mini.com/9764/index.html

-MINI CLUBMAN 1380 TURBO-

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