10s or 13s - who\'s running what?
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Currently got some 13x7s on my mini, but love the look of 10s and every goes on about how much better the handling is so i'm gonna get me some! :)

I'm running a 3.1Fd and a GT box at the moment but when i go to 10s i was thinking of getting a lower final drive to compromise the top speed as i don't want it to be revving the nuts off it when i'm on the motorway.

So just wandering what size wheels are you running? what final drive and what rpm your doing at 70mph?
thanks!

im running 10's the outside diameter of the wheel and tyre is exactly the same as my other mini with 13x7 wheels with a 50 profile,

133.5 bhp 123 lb torque 116mph @6640rpm 9.5psi
Shakespear RWYB 14.995 91.83mph

well i did have 12's with a 3.44 that was just shy of 4k at 70.

This may help: http://www.guess-works.com/Tech/ratio.htm

When mine goes back on the road it will on 10's with a 3.1 diff don't know what that works out to be at 70.

Edited by hazpalmer on 3rd Mar, 2011.

Try this calculator.....
http://www.guess-works.com/Tech/ratio.htm

Im on 10's with a 3.2 FD so about 4k revs@70mph

-MINI CLUBMAN 1380 TURBO-

5x10's atm, going to 6x10's post MOT. 10's look better, so why worry?

mines got a 3.1 just a tad short of 80 at 4k...on my own private stretch of the M61 i have to add

133.5 bhp 123 lb torque 116mph @6640rpm 9.5psi
Shakespear RWYB 14.995 91.83mph

10's look better but i prefer less sidewall flex with the 13's

I've always had 10's, not got 13's on the vauxhall mini and prefer the 10's still!

13x6's Theres no need for 13x7's they just give 13" wheels bad press

I run 13x7 current fd of 3.44 70mph at 4k

"Tuning should be a compromise between what is possible and what is necessary"

10)Thou shalt always quest for more power

My last wheels were 10x7 mb's and my new wheels will most likely be the same size.

Cheers Ross.

Edited by rosco454 on 3rd Mar, 2011.

how do 10x7 handle with road tyers on?

My build thread..

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=542985

10 x 7 with a 165 tyre - bad.

You'll need a 195 tyre ideally for that width.

7x13 on the hillclimber 4.2 diff 7k is 100mph

5.5x13 on the Sprint, 2.9 diff, 5k 100mph.

6x12s are a great size as you can fit the larger brakes and you get a decent sized tyre sidewall.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

bad in what way almichie? im looking towards 10x7's.

13x8`s 3.9 60 @ 4k.

Will be on 13x7`s 1.1 drops 4.35 final (Higher if i can get my mits on one)

60@ 5k

The tyre side wall gets stretched like the vw boys like, you loose the side wall flex and won't handle well.

A 7" rim isn't over all 7". where the tyre sits it's wider, let's say 8" which is 203.2mm. So you can see how stretched the 165mm tyre will be.

I'm sure someone will now say how great their 7x10 wheel with 165 tyre's are but I don't agree

How can a 7" wheel turn to 8?? Where the tyre siits is the width my force wheels i measur from where the beadssit and its correct to thewheel width, how did you gain an inch??

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-Ford S-max Mk2 Ecoboost
-Rover 100 VVC #2 - track project

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I'm going to be running 10x5.5 force racing wheels. Prevously had 13x6, they worked really well and didn't create any issues with tramlining unlike 13x7. The 165-70-10 seem to have a lot of tyre roll but do look the part. I actually found 13,s with 50 profile the steer slot more direct and sharper. With the 10,s the car moves around alot more but is slightly more predictable. Is the 10" thing a myth. I guess there is alot more tyre choice of tyres for 13,s. Lightweight 13's maybe for my next project.

Edited by alaskanow0 on 4th Mar, 2011.

Class C 3rd Place Avon 2011 14.18 @101mph

Bad times rosco, little one for the guys and girls misionary pos with your hands under squeezing her ass garanteed wet patch if you aint got the lenght make up for it in other ways lol

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-Rover 100 VVC #2 - track project

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Bill sollis (some say he knows a thing or two about minis that handle) said that my car running 6 3/4 x 10 and 165 tyres was one of the best handling road cars he has ever driven.

I would like to know what you base your statement on? have you run 7x10 wheels on your car?

I'm with wolfie, can you explain your experiences and how you came to the conclusion that a 7" WHEEL AND 165 TYRES IS BAD,opps caps lock.
also without wanting to sound ageist can you tell us your age, as this is usually a good indication on how mjush experience you've accumulated in your years on this fair earth.

carl

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Driven on all wheel sizes for a mini, i found with 13/7 and 10/6.5 i prefer thec tens as it suits my driving style and i find more feel than 13's

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-Rover 100 VVC #2 - track project

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I see where he is coming from in logic, but the information backing it makes no sense.
His main point is stretched tyres are bad for handling which if you fun them to the extreme that the VW boys do is usually correct.
But in this instance the wheel has got magically and inch bigger therefore adding a massive amount of stretch to the tyres. As surposed to the 10mm difference that the 165 on 7" has

Not disagreeing but would someone enlighten me as to why the smaller 165s work better then the 175 which are a much closer width to the rim and would this apply to all wheel sizes ie 165s on 13x7s?