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![]() 1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
8th May, 2011 at 02:26:00pm
Hi
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4309 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
8th May, 2011 at 02:33:17pm
Out the bonnet somewhere? On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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![]() 1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
8th May, 2011 at 02:37:54pm
need to be under the bonnet really. Could of course make some bulges on it, but would like to avoid that, and I think it should be possible to avoid it as well. |
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![]() 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
8th May, 2011 at 05:04:06pm
Obviously in the "Weber" box at the back. Nice and central and a free area.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
8th May, 2011 at 05:08:04pm
I'm with Paul on posttion, but depending on what turbo you are using, getting it low down the back will be best for CofG. Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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![]() 1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
8th May, 2011 at 05:15:06pm
On 8th May, 2011 Paul S said:
Obviously in the "Weber" box at the back. Nice and central and a free area. Interesting choice of manifold pipe sizes. might be able to squeeze all that pipe and the turbo in there, but wont it be VERY hot inside the box there then with nowhere for the heat to go??? Also, what do you think about the sizing, bearing in mind all your simulations? Many thanks for your answers! |
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![]() 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
8th May, 2011 at 05:45:58pm
Passenger footwell? On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it ![]() |
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![]() 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
8th May, 2011 at 05:59:09pm
On 8th May, 2011 miniminor63 said:
Also, what do you think about the sizing, bearing in mind all your simulations? The simulations seem to suggest that, in length terms, whatever works for NA, works for turbo. However, bore wise then you need to go a bit smaller than normal NA. Roughly speaking, the length determines the frequency of the reflected pulses, the bore determines the amplitude of the pulses. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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![]() 1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
8th May, 2011 at 06:07:35pm
On 8th May, 2011 apbellamy said:
Passenger footwell? too many tubes obstruct that. Also it would mean major surgery to include that as a part of the outside and not the inside of the car (due to series regulations) |
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![]() 1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
8th May, 2011 at 06:09:38pm
On 8th May, 2011 Paul S said:
On 8th May, 2011 miniminor63 said:
Also, what do you think about the sizing, bearing in mind all your simulations? The simulations seem to suggest that, in length terms, whatever works for NA, works for turbo. However, bore wise then you need to go a bit smaller than normal NA. Roughly speaking, the length determines the frequency of the reflected pulses, the bore determines the amplitude of the pulses. should not be too far off then. This was calculated by a company that deals with manifolds and sells tube to make them. They needed quite a bit of information like cam details, bore, stroke, cross section areas and the like. what do you think about the temperature issue that would arrise if I place the turbo in the miglia box in the bulkhead? |
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![]() 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
8th May, 2011 at 06:32:15pm
It'll burn the paint off in no time!
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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![]() 1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
8th May, 2011 at 07:01:34pm
ports are slightly above the cross member level, so its not that bad. I could also angle the engine somewhat. It will burn the paint off with just the tubes as well I guess though.
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![]() 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
8th May, 2011 at 07:03:28pm
You could also put a big rad on the right and the turbo on the left to balance it out. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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![]() 1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
8th May, 2011 at 07:21:17pm
might be a possibility that! I think it will be easier to place the turbo on the opposite side to the belt, and then I could of course put the rad where it usually is. Edited by miniminor63 on 8th May, 2011. |
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![]() 1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
9th May, 2011 at 10:10:42am
been out looking at the possibility of having the radiator by the belt. I have room for a large one, say 40x50 cmx 50 mm thick, but it would need to be placed along the brace bar and there will not be much room for any efficient ducting I think, so back to the drawing board??
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1425 Posts Member #: 690 Post Whore Norfolk |
9th May, 2011 at 03:38:37pm
you need to show us the turbo Andre - if its bigger than the disco potato on mine you may struggle to get it up high like mine is!
If Carling made Mini engines
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![]() 1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
9th May, 2011 at 04:12:57pm
its pretty much the same dimensions as a GT2871. The compressor side is either 7" or 7.75" across depending on which unit we pick.
Edited by miniminor63 on 9th May, 2011. |
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![]() 3673 Posts Member #: 9300 Post Whore Quarry Bonk |
9th May, 2011 at 06:14:19pm
Is it possible to place another boxing below the crossmember to accomodate it there above the diff? as im guessing youre not having a heater... Edited by Carlzilla on 9th May, 2011. On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!! 17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine) |
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![]() 1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
9th May, 2011 at 06:41:57pm
not a bad idea that, but it will make it difficult to get to, also I need to measure to check if the room there could be large enough. |
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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
9th May, 2011 at 08:43:35pm
I'd put it where Johnk has his. There should be plenty of room, especially with the bulkhead box you have. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fusion-Fabri..._homepage_panel
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![]() 1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
9th May, 2011 at 08:47:41pm
Cant see how I can manage to fit all the exhaust manifold I want with that placement. I need to get the heat away from the head as this will be used for 30-40 minute races |
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![]() 720 Posts Member #: 2588 Post Whore Pretoria South Africa |
10th May, 2011 at 08:29:30am
Turbo over clutch, front mount rad and massive nic style ducted IC on the belt side ? "So wat we gonna do tonight Brain?"
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![]() 1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
10th May, 2011 at 08:36:02am
yes, might be a possibility.
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1083 Posts Member #: 8932 Post Whore |
10th May, 2011 at 10:26:45am
janspeed style sounds like the best solution if your unhappy about putting it where John has his. |
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