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37 Posts Member #: 8150 Member |
31st May, 2011 at 06:20:02pm
Hi all,
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 3673 Posts Member #: 9300 Post Whore Quarry Bonk |
31st May, 2011 at 06:31:03pm
Look like different springs to me, or one has pooed itself, could be worth checking to see that they havent siezed, take the springs off and check the damper moves properly. Edited by Carlzilla on 31st May, 2011. On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!! 17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine) |
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 9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
31st May, 2011 at 06:36:04pm
I would gues that if you put it on corner weight scales it would be immediately apparant.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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37 Posts Member #: 8150 Member |
31st May, 2011 at 06:48:39pm
On 31st May, 2011 wil_h said:
I would gues that if you put it on corner weight scales it would be immediately apparant. I suspect that there is a similar thing happening at the rear meaning that the majority of the weight of the car is across two diagonaly opposed corners (in this case front off-side and rear near-side). Check that the rear is evenly set. If not, set all corners the same side-to-side as a starting point. I have a theory that the majority of minis with adjustable heigh suspension are set in such a way. It is pretty much exactly the same problem at the back, but the other way round as you said, so opposing corners. So I should set all the cogs at the same height first? What will I be looking for then? Thanks for your help. |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
31st May, 2011 at 06:58:34pm
Fist thing is to get it on flat ground, check with a spirit level on a long piece of wood.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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37 Posts Member #: 8150 Member |
31st May, 2011 at 07:04:06pm
Brilliant, really appreciate the advice. I'll have a go. |
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4018 Posts Member #: 1757 Back to Fucking Tool status Swindon |
31st May, 2011 at 07:14:38pm
It looks almost like one spring has collapsed as it is nearly compleatly compresses, setting equal hights ect will be a good starting point also check the dampers are at equal set points on the dials side to side maybe set really soft on one hard on the other Drives
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 3329 Posts Member #: 184 Senior Member Melton Mowbray, Pie Country |
31st May, 2011 at 08:57:54pm
When setting the corners it is best to disconnect the dampers. This is not possible on coilovers, best it to set them to minimum. Before measuring after adjustment it is best to jump up and down on the sill. Also leave it out of gear and with the handbrake off. http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
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37 Posts Member #: 8150 Member |
31st May, 2011 at 09:21:20pm
Right, just spent a couple of hours setting all the cogs at the same height. I did jump on the sills and also took it over a couple of bumps to try and get them to settle.
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3329 Posts Member #: 184 Senior Member Melton Mowbray, Pie Country |
31st May, 2011 at 09:27:09pm
Are the springs interchangeable front to back? I guess the front springs will be a higher poundage. For some reason has a front spring goton the bacn and vice versa? http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
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37 Posts Member #: 8150 Member |
31st May, 2011 at 09:32:06pm
I'm not sure if they are interchangeable but I've just counted the amount of coils on the rear suspension from top to bottom and both sides have 15, so it doesn't appear so.
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4018 Posts Member #: 1757 Back to Fucking Tool status Swindon |
31st May, 2011 at 09:45:25pm
Do you have the twin hole coilover brackets?? The top poaition is about 1.5" higher up than the bottom, if there in the bottom whack them in the top to lower the ride hight Drives
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
31st May, 2011 at 09:46:42pm
Interesting. Check the ride height at each end by measuring from the sill lip to the floor at the ends of the sills. Then post up here. Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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37 Posts Member #: 8150 Member |
31st May, 2011 at 10:20:50pm
Sorry, edit... Mixed up the top two.
Edited by tbonejones on 31st May, 2011. |
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37 Posts Member #: 8150 Member |
31st May, 2011 at 10:34:52pm
On 31st May, 2011 Paul R said:
Do you have the twin hole coilover brackets?? The top poaition is about 1.5" higher up than the bottom, if there in the bottom whack them in the top to lower the ride hight I didn't think about this. I'll have a look when I get the wheels off again tomorrow. Can't wait 
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
1st Jun, 2011 at 08:11:32am
Is that on 100% flat ground?
On 31st May, 2011 tbonejones said:
Sorry, edit... Mixed up the top two. My findings were... Offside front: 216mm Nearside front: 223mm Offside rear: 248mm Nearside rear: 243mm Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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37 Posts Member #: 8150 Member |
1st Jun, 2011 at 08:23:04am
On 1st Jun, 2011 wil_h said:
Is that on 100% flat ground? If it is I can see whay it ended up so odd. I can't see that from those you will ever get it even unfortunately. Looking at the arches and the differance is more apparant than the figures suggest, and 5mm side-to-side is not horrendus. I'd suggest that the arches are not even height side to side, try and do some meadurements. May not have been 100% but pretty close, I took it up the road to a level area. When I get home from work I'll measure from the bottom of the back windows to the wheel arches, as it is the back which is the most uneven. I'm not even bothered about getting it absolutely perfect, I just want it looking less wonky! I guess it'll just be a case of setting them unevenly again to even it out a bit, but I'm a little worried about what that'll mean for the car's handling in the long term. |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
1st Jun, 2011 at 08:29:42am
You really don't want to have it like it was, turning left you'd get understeer and right oversteer.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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37 Posts Member #: 8150 Member |
1st Jun, 2011 at 08:35:28am
Could camber/caster/toe etc be messing it up? It hasn't been set up properly since I have had it.
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
1st Jun, 2011 at 08:49:37am
yes, it has 2" differance arch to wheel but only 5mm sill height.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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37 Posts Member #: 8150 Member |
1st Jun, 2011 at 08:54:50am
Hmmm, ok pal, thanks for the advice. Like I said I'll go home later and do some measurements on the arches and post this evening. |
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37 Posts Member #: 8150 Member |
1st Jun, 2011 at 04:29:27pm
Going to have to hang fire with this. Just opened my passenger door to put my tax disc in and my window spontaneously shattered. Unbelievable. |
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