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KAD sent a message on FB earlier today about doing their alloy blocked engine.

Should be interesting to see how that pans out.


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I still don't understand why. What is it's use?

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


manifold

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i would have thought weight, bore spacing and opportunity to increase number of journals(with matching crank) would be a potential reason....That and just because they can....marketing reasons.


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Its alot to spend to just have something different to everyone else. Something different to have around though.

In boost we trust


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Yes, but what for? It's not eligable for any motorsport class. Essesnially it's a different engine (i.e. non A-series). When you can make more power than needed from an A-series it's only use is Pub points.

Quite the opposite to the rest of KADs stuff, which is well engineered gear for use in motorsport.

On 9th Jun, 2011 manifold said:
i would have thought weight, bore spacing and opportunity to increase number of journals(with matching crank) would be a potential reason....That and just because they can....marketing reasons.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph



On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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Totally agreed. It's pub points.


On 9th Jun, 2011 wil_h said:

Yes, but what for? It's not eligable for any motorsport class. Essesnially it's a different engine (i.e. non A-series). When you can make more power than needed from an A-series it's only use is Pub points.

Quite the opposite to the rest of KADs stuff, which is well engineered gear for use in motorsport.

On 9th Jun, 2011 manifold said:
i would have thought weight, bore spacing and opportunity to increase number of journals(with matching crank) would be a potential reason....That and just because they can....marketing reasons.


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Whats everyone gunna do when there are fuck all blocks left for us to rebore and blow up.

1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.


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it would look great in Paul W's car and help with the weight up the strip?

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
VEMS + 12 PSI + Liquid Intercooler = Small Bore FUN!


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They will be recast.

On 9th Jun, 2011 MikeRace said:
Whats everyone gunna do when there are fuck all blocks left for us to rebore and blow up.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph



On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


jamie@thefatgarage

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A lot of blocks left yet. It took me all of a day to find a 1275 block on it's original bore for £40


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it wpouils take me about 10 seconds to locate the dozen i have in my workshop

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On 9th Jun, 2011 wil_h said:

it's only use is Pub points.


Like so many things these days.

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."


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I recon the weight saving would be massive, i picked up an alloy 7 port a bit since and nearly smashed myself in the face!

1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.


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I can already see a link.

a new 5 bearing block

an already available 5 bearing crank

This could be interesting


On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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To quote KAD on facebook

We also now have an order for our first KAD Alloy Block A-Series engine, which should bring the long awaited Alloy Block project to fruition and see the first alloy A series engines racing in the 2012 season.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 10th Jun, 2011 Sprocket said:
I can already see a link.

a new 5 bearing block

an already available 5 bearing crank

This could be interesting




i'v been running an alloy 5-main-bearing block for years 8-)

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

Denis O'Brien.


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So all good but not an A-Series then?


On 10th Jun, 2011 Sprocket said:
I can already see a link.

a new 5 bearing block

an already available 5 bearing crank

This could be interesting



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Just thinking about the cost. You are probibly looking at £10k + for a complete engine/ transmission unit. Do you get a solid gold engine number plate free? lol

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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But what racing?


On 10th Jun, 2011 Sprocket said:
To quote KAD on facebook

We also now have an order for our first KAD Alloy Block A-Series engine, which should bring the long awaited Alloy Block project to fruition and see the first alloy A series engines racing in the 2012 season.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph



On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


fastcarl

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Colin, youv'e clearly not built a KAD engine,lol

10k is about average with a decent box.

On 10th Jun, 2011 Sprocket said:
Just thinking about the cost. You are probibly looking at £10k + for a complete engine/ transmission unit. Do you get a solid gold engine number plate free? lol

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liam mini 35

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Does any one have a link to it? Iv had a look on the kad site but cant find it on there? Anyone know how much it is?

The turbo build has finally started


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I dont see this as an advantage, i mean what motorsport groupings can it be used in. You would be better off fitting a morden car engine or a motorbike engine.

On 19th Feb, 2011 Miniwilliams said:
OMG Robert that's a big one


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On 10th Jun, 2011 Sam said:
I dont see this as an advantage, i mean what motorsport groupings can it be used in. You would be better off fitting a morden car engine or a motorbike engine.


Precisely. If I do eventually go down the route of building something high-spec, I very much doubt it will be A-Series.


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I would be a lot more excited if they were making cast iron AEG312 thick flange Cooper S 1275 blocks. An alloy block can't possibly save enough weight to be worth the cost.

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